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flying beret

8th Apr 2019 13:42

US Registration

Hi all
I would like to fly a single engine piston with a US Registration in Europe (France),
for medical reasons.
If i find the cessna of my dream with which firm can i send it in France by container?
Is there many mechanics faa aproved in France?
Can you list the trap i have to avoid?
thanks for cops
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Jan Olieslagers

8th Apr 2019 16:29

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can i send it in France by container

from where?

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Is there many mechanics faa aproved in France

there are several.

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Can you list the trap i have to avoid

not all, but a prime concern is that you can offer proof of having paid VAT at import.

PS if you have medical issues, you might consider the alternative path of flying an F-registered ultralight on a French ultralight license. No medical required. Be warned though that there are exams to take (on air law and all that) and though the answers are multiple choice, the questions are in French.

Sam Rutherford

8th Apr 2019 16:30

We ferry planes across the Atlantic all the time.

C152 is probably cheaper/easier to send by container. From C172 and larger usually better to ferry (fly).

Lots of FAA engineers in France, be aware of import duty and TVA that you'll have to pay when it arrives in France. It's not a complicated process, no stress.

Cheers, Sam.

Sam Rutherford

8th Apr 2019 16:33

Jan Olieslagers

Simultaneous responses! With the same correct information.

flying beret If you only need two seats, then Jan's advice is worth analysis (cheaper and easier).

Pilot DAR

9th Apr 2019 03:05

Let me ask a purely speculative question: If one desired having an N registered plane in Europe, could you not buy the plane you like in Europe, deregister it in Europe, register it in the US with an import, and then just not move it out of Europe? I have some experience containering planes, and it would not be my first choice for moving them. Why not leave it where you found it, and move only its registration?

flyingfemme

9th Apr 2019 17:22

Yes. That can be done. But the costs of re-registering may be more than the costs to ferry........VAT has to be paid either way.

Sam Rutherford

11th Apr 2019 07:17

The de-register/re-register costs will normally be less than a ferry, though it may not be by much and involves some risk (if your American DAR refuses to accept your aircraft). This is extremely rare going EUR to N, but is a definite risk going N to EUR (FAA much more accepting of modifications than EASA).

flying beret

11th Apr 2019 14:13

Hi
thanks for your responses

I was thinking about a Cessna in the US.
The VAT amount will be around 15/20% i imagine?
I’ve already got a license for Ultralight(i flew fk9 and ikarus c42)the Shark is an interesting one,
but i’d like 3 or 4 seats to carry family and friends during week-end or holidays,

Do you have an approximate idea of the cost to ferry a cessna 172,
what an adventure ! Is it possible to fly with the experienced pilot?

you’re right, good idea,
i’ve to study that way,
it could be easier and cheaper to find an aircraft in Europe
and ask for an N reg,

thanks for cops

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