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Genghis the Engineer 20th Jun 2018 18:40

"Amateur in a shed" ?

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Johnm 20th Jun 2018 20:24


Originally Posted by Genghis the Engineer (Post 10177635)
"Amateur in a shed" ?

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homebuilders and their supply chains

BoeingBoy 21st Jun 2018 07:26

Well to return to the subject of Brexit and EASA someone seems to have decided we need a negotiator to deal with it. This from another forums page:

Head of Airspace Strategy/Head of Aviation EU Exit Negotiations

Phororhacos 22nd Jun 2018 17:47


Prior knowledge of airspace and the aviation sector is an advantage but not necessary.
Says it all really :-(

Sam Rutherford 23rd Jun 2018 10:40

I've just started my application process...

abgd 23rd Jun 2018 15:17

Maybe some enterprising person should buy the rights for the E-Go and move production to Broughton. Lots of cheap but highly skilled labour likely to be available soon. :(

Jan Olieslagers 23rd Jun 2018 16:41

A good idea, @abgd, but for some uncouth reason enterprising people seem to become rare in the UK - a surprising number of them popping up in Brussels and especially in its outskirts - a surprising part of them filing requests for citizenship in BE or other continental countries.

Steve6443 23rd Jun 2018 17:20


Originally Posted by Jan Olieslagers (Post 10180123)
A good idea, @abgd, but for some uncouth reason enterprising people seem to become rare in the UK - a surprising number of them popping up in Brussels and especially in its outskirts - a surprising part of them filing requests for citizenship in BE or other continental countries.

Jan: you're mixing up "hangers-on of a certain gravy train" with enterprising people. The former are rarely the latter and the latter have no need or desire to be anywhere near the former.....

Jan Olieslagers 23rd Jun 2018 19:01

Point taken, @Steve, you might indeed well have a point. Difference between short-term view of opportunities vs. long term view of stable business, if I understand you all right? Only I am afraid today's world offers little promise of long-term stability, so day-to-day pragmatism seems to be the way to go. Sad, yes.

Genghis the Engineer 23rd Jun 2018 22:01


Originally Posted by Johnm (Post 10177715)


homebuilders and their supply chains


That is neither P&M nor, in large part, TLAC. Both are national authority approved manufacturers; the former has been in business in various guises for over a quarter century, the latter around a decade.

Of course, the most successful light aircraft manufacturing operation in the world at the moment is arguably Vans, who are almost exclusively supplying homebuilders. So, I wouldn't disparage that model either.

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abgd 24th Jun 2018 05:36


for some uncouth reason enterprising people seem to become rare in the UK
My neighbour has just announced a new job on the continent. His existing job in academia became insecure as a result of a drop in student numbers following the referendum so he's resigning before he is pushed. He will take his family including my son's best friend with him.
Kudos, it can't be easy to move to a lower paying job in a new country when you're 50.

a.alexeev.p 24th Jun 2018 18:21

that is all so very sad and uncertainty is the worst :(

Sam Rutherford 31st Oct 2018 11:14

So, I applied for this:

Head of Airspace Strategy/Head of Aviation EU Exit Negotiations

I didn't get the job - didn't even get to interview. :)

Anyone know who was chosen and what they're planning to do between now and the Christmas holidays (which in work efficiency terms, the holidays start on about the 1st December), and then from about 7 January until the end of March?

I would imagine the next four weeks will be creating their team, and then what's left of January is finalising strategy.

So, that leaves February (unfortunately only 28 days as not a leap year) to, erm, negotiate.

Then, most of March to implement whatever has been, erm, negotiated...

TelsBoy 2nd Nov 2018 09:57

Hard lines Sam. Better luck next time...

I'd imagine it'll be some professional Civil Servant/Politico who knew the right folk. Probably no aviation background, or maybe the most tenuous of links.

All a total shambles.

Sam Rutherford 5th Nov 2018 09:06

I wasn't interested in the job, but was interested in the process (and background story).

All gone very quiet, I don't know who they chose (if anyone), and/or what they're going to do.

In this timeframe, it's going to have to be a "we'll change nothing now, but implement future changes during the transition period'.

I think we're going to hear 'transition period' a lot over the next few months!

PDR1 5th Nov 2018 13:34

I think we'll need to progressively migrate towards the transition phase (going forward).

PDR

Sam Rutherford 5th Nov 2018 14:30

And then, another question (to which I don't think anyone has an answer).

Currently, an N reg arriving in the EU needs to pay EU VAT. This is a generalisation, but you get my drift.

Will this apply to G reg 'arriving in the EU' after March 29th? How many G reg owners still have the original purchase invoice, with VAT marked as paid?

Can opened, discuss...

150commuter 8th Nov 2018 21:08

ISTR that being the case even when we were in the EEC but before it had become the EU. There were several cases of French customs (possibly others but France is where most G aircraft going abroad went) asking for the documentation and if it wasn't forthcoming demanding the VAT. I think these were mostly sorted out but there was a lot of bureaucracy involved. I know with more certainty about what happened with UK film and TV crews going abroad. Until about the early 1990s, so before the single market kicked in, they had to have carnets with absolutely every piece of equipment listed and these were quite often checked by French customs. If they'd actually lost something like a film magazine they'd not only have to replace it but would probably have to pay the VAT on it as well on the grounds that they might have sold it there. The main problem was that they were often held up for ages at the ports while all their equipment was checked against the carnet.

Sam Rutherford 9th Nov 2018 06:03

We're dealing with film equipment carnets constantly around the world, and yes, they're a pain. Checking of the serial numbers down to individual batteries - can, and often does, take hours! Not just at each border, but the preparation/organisation in advance ensuring that the carnet information is correct (cross-checked with the gear that is going). That's before something is added (or also removed) just before departure!

The idea that this will carry across to UK European shoots is a horror I hadn't previously considered.

I'll add it to the list of unexpected/unintended consequences.

PDR1 9th Nov 2018 08:11


Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford (Post 10306076)
We're dealing with film equipment carnets constantly around the world, and yes, they're a pain. Checking of the serial numbers down to individual batteries - can, and often does, take hours! Not just at each border, but the preparation/organisation in advance ensuring that the carnet information is correct (cross-checked with the gear that is going). That's before something is added (or also removed) just before departure!

The idea that this will carry across to UK European shoots is a horror I hadn't previously considered.

I'll add it to the list of unexpected/unintended consequences.

Don't forget this would also apply to your phone/laptop/tablet/smart-watch and indeed everything else that you have with you that is VAT-able in the EU.

In the EU tampons are VAT-able...

PDR


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