list of current 8,33 channels for Europe?
 

Is it only me, or is the current status of the 833-issue really a PITA?

Many airfields in Europe changed from the old frequencies to the new channel methodology, but quite some AIPs have not been updated yet. As the moving map procurers seem to pull their data from the AIP, most of them are right now not suitable for flight planning. Only a few airfields with the funding to afford two radios seem to listen to the old frequencies parallel to the new channels ... Btw: what happened to the issue of portable 833s not allowed as base station on the ground?

Does anybody have a link, maybe Eurocontrol, to a complete list of current channels in use in Europe?

Did everything change in Europe on 1st January or is it going to be a gradual change as the UK are doing?
If it is gradual there will not be an up to date list until next year. In the UK most channels will be updated at about licence renewal time by NOTAM then appear in the AIP at the next cycle.

Why ask? Only an 8,33 radio is any good today. At most you could wonder how urgent it is.
And no, not everything changed overnight, not by a long way.

One thing I don't understand is that NOTAMS informing of the change to 8.33kHz spacing say the existing 'frequency', for example 118.000Mhz will be changing to, for example 118.005MHz. As in the example; 118.005 is a 8.33kHz spacing 'channel number' so shouldn't it just be 118.005 because it is not a frequency - in fact it's frequency is still 118.000MHz.

Here's an actual example:

Q) EGXX/QCACF/IV/B/E/000/999/5504N00500W999
B) FROM: 17/11/02 00:00C) TO: PERM
E) AMEND SCOTTISH CONTROL (PRESTWICK) FREQUENCY
128.050MHZ TO FREQUENCY 128.055MHZ
ENR 2.1, ENR 3.1, ENR 3.3 REFERS

Can anyone explain to me why NOTAMS are calling 'channel numbers' frequencies?

'Anyone' can propose a NOTAM so if they are not aware that 8.33 assignments are channels they may continue to use wrong terminology. Might be worth raising the issue with the AIS supervisor to try and get them corrected prior to publication. [email protected] (Monitored Office Hours Only)

Why ask? Because I would like to have one list to look up the channels of all radios for a flight, including the alternate.

Up to last year one could almost rely on the standard moving map applications to deliver the correct frequencies needed for a flight - even giving the right one for alternates, even in flight.

Right now, for each and every flight, I have to look up the airfields, check NOTAMs and airfield information and their website for news and even better call them to make sure I do get the right radio channels for a proper communication.

And yes, it is a sign of contemporary decay of knowledge and brain activity calling the new channels a "frequency" - But, we have to live with that as we cannot change the contagious dullness.