So he survived a crash and fire in his twin and then goes on to do this? Interesting lifestyle.

2.5 years in jail and banned from France for 5 years, talk about fast justice.

I suppose that his old adversary, Golden Eagle, is probably out by now after his 21 month sentence for fraud. Otherwise they might have met up to chat about their old friend Robert Weaver.

Is this Mr Green?
https://i.imgur.com/2Ieh8KH.jpg

The fire which caused serious injury to David Green was not the result of a crash. It occurred at about 7 p.m. on a January night. The aircraft was parked at North Weald, an airfield which had no night flying facilities . The story seems to be the fire was caused by the ignition of solvents (or something similar ?)

@Jay Sata: it seems incorrect to speculate about people's identity. This forum is about flying (private) not about who does. I count on moderators to be quicker than ever.

Well there appears to be plenty of speculation regarding his history and background and that picture is out there on the web.

I have not suggested he is a member of this forum.

The fact remains that he has been found guilty in a French court and is serving a 2.5 year sentance. He was obviously not concerned about the consequences when he left the UK a week ago to smuggle four illegal immigrants in to the UK.

If he did not want his name in the UK press and confinement in prison then he could have stuck to the law like the majority of us.

This forum is about private flying but that includes the bad as well as the good.

I don't think people smuggling does anyone any favours and that certainly includes the flying community.

This was not a solo trip.

Correct up until the point someone is convicted of a serious crime (especially flying related ) then any past right or expectation to anonymity on here or anywhere else goes bye bye, as the conviction is a matter of public record.

Perhaps he should have taken your earlier advice :ok:

Jan,

Jetblu = Dave Green has been known for at least 5 years, since the North Weald fire.

There is no case to answer here.

SD

Am I surprised there is no David Frederick Green (his full name) on the FAA Airmen data base....

https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/Main.aspx

Why surprised? if he's based out of North Weald the chances are he's British and would more than likely have a British license and not be listed on a US federal pilot database.

Surely he would need a UK AND FAA or French licence to fly "N" reg in France.

Well I'm sure licensing will be the least of his worries as he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. More to the point Pete I literally just stepped of that big metal bird in the sky at EDI and spent the last 6 hours dreaming about getting that other "n reg" that's sitting out front your window in the air now it's all buttoned back up and paperwork all correct, however being the cheap bastard I am I didn't spring for the altimeter change out so your gonna have to get yer wee conversion calculator out and give me the field info in inches and not that fruit pastels nonsense. Cya monyana !!

The pressure (P) conversion formulas

Hectopascal to inch of mercury (hPa to inHg):
0.02952998751 × PhPa = PinHg
Example:
If hPa = 49 then inHg = 0.02952998751 × 49 = 1.44696938799 inHg

Inch of mercury to hectopascal (inHg to hPa):
33.8638816 × PinHg = PhPa

There you go:ok:

No.

https://goo.gl/mzwRds

Who could possibly have been so cynical about the authorities clamping down on smuggling by private aircraft???? Jetblu, on 20th November 2014!

He should have listened to his own advice.....

Would this be the same Jetblu who wrote this on the TCT thread in August last year::D

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Exactly..... that's why I made the point.

You do realise that we can ask the FAA to hide our information, you wont find me in a general FAA database search although I hold an FAA ATP, they gave us this option about 10 years ago.
So not finding doesn't mean doesnt exist.

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Originally Posted by dont overfil View Post
Surely he would need a UK AND FAA or French licence to fly "N" reg in France.

Im afraid my schoolboy French is not up to translating that technical stuff.

Anyway, I thought that it was now mandatory to have a licence from the state of residency as well as the state of Registry.
Unless I am mistaken, doesnt that mean he would have needed a UK Licence and a FAA licence for flights into, or out of, the UK?

That apart, I trust the UK CAA will revoke, permanently, any CAA or EASA licence he holds on the grounds of no longer being a "fit and proper person". Simultaneously, they should revoke (in his case) the exemption to fly in the UK on a foreign licence.
This to ensure he never flies again,or commits another aviation offence, after being released. There are precedents, but probably not for people trafficking.

I would hope the CAA act as swiftly as the French Authorities did.

It remains to be seen what consequences befall the rest of us as a result of this one mans actions....

Not necessarily. I am aware of a pilot who was arrested (many moons ago) for drug smuggling in an Auster. His licence was not touched, although he served time for the criminal act.

Thanks mutt, I didn't know that...after I retired!

I have never heard of a pilot in the UK having their UK license removed in the last 20 years. People have been stopped flying on medical grounds post court cases. But license revoked no.

The USA it seems to be normal for flying privileges to be removed for a variety of reasons.

I must say Jetblu has been through a lot.

http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ml#post9302300

He makes the point in that link that the C421 belonged to a friend and not him.

Another chapter in the Goldeneagle/Weaver saga.
Not sure about this paragraph.

I met David Green at Oxford Crown court at the trial of Kevin Crellin aka Golden Eagle Pilot when I was one of the witnesses that helped to put KC away, in part as a result of KC stealing money intended to support DG's wife after his accident.

I know nothing about this case other than what I have read here; but wouldn't wish the disfiguring injuries that David has suffered as a result of the fire at North Weald, some of which I have seen, on anyone. Subsequent to that accident, he also lost his wife who divorced him.

I don't know any details about that nor, as I say, about this case; but I can't help wondering what would make an apparently reputable pilot do something like this. Greed? Desperation? I don't know. Perhaps others on here know more than I do?

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Your last sentence hits the nail on the head

Definitely greed and now consequences for you all.:ugh:

That is what makes me so bl00dy angry.
"I'm alright Jack, screw the rest of you"

An attitude he has had all his life, I am afraid. In case you are wondering. I found out yesterday and I am ashamed to say we share the same blood. Disgusted doesn't cut it!

Will you be writing to him in French now?:p

I won't be writing to him at all. We have had no contact for over 2.5 years since he decided that it would be a good idea to try and take me to Court for mismanagement of his affairs during his ... ahem accident. I too was taken in by Golden Eagle Pilot and was glad that he got his just desserts. I was told by his son yesterday (who incidentally is just as disgusted as the rest of our family) that there was talk on Pprune and I just wanted to say I am so very sorry for the implications that this is going to have on all of you going forward. The actions of one greedy, manipulative man is going to impact on all of you and for that you have my sincere apologies. My father who was loved by all in the aviation world (he kept his plane at Stapleford), who is now dead, I am pleased to say does not have to witness the further shenanigans of his son. Unfortunately my mother (previous owner of G0-KAG) does. Flying has been in my family ever since I can remember and it saddens me greatly that what is a pleasurable past-time for most, has now been sullied by a few.


I am not prepared to wash dirty linen in public on here in memory of my father but I just wanted to publicly apologise for all of you pilots whom this is going to have a great impact on now and in the future.


Many years ago I told Jet Blu that he had made money his God and one day it was going to get him into a lot of trouble.:= How true my words have come to pass. Enjoy your flying everyone, albeit now with stricter controls. Sorry.

Thanks for the insight.

I do wonder if the previous incident will be investigated again.

I had wondered the same.

Wonder if there is a penalty for an own goal?

Missing the point guys, these assholes should be eradicated from the aviation community, lose their flying licences for good and spend the rest of their lives in war torn countries

Which one, the ditching or the fire?

I assume the Insurances have paid out so they probably have no hope...

The AAIB did not investigate the fire as there was no flight involved...