8.33khz options
 

Hi All,

I have to replace the King KY197 in my Archer and at the moment the options for tray mounted 8.33khz radios seem to be limited to Garmin, Trig and ICOM with the latter being the cheapest at just under £2k.

Whilst all good sets, I only need a basic 10W set capable of being the second radio to a GNS430 so I wondered if anyone has come across any other alternative suppliers or manufacturers. I am currently looking at the GTR225, the TY96 and the IC-A220T.

Any help appreciated before reaching for the credit card.

What about the ATR833A? £1400 ish;

ATR 833a OLED Transceiver

Rod1

I have installed a Trig TY91 at a cost far lower than 2000 € let alone 2000 GBP; and am very happy with it - both with the apparatus as such and the service. Most importantly, my supplier, a true-blue hardware electronics engineer, told me he is happy to sell it because Messrs. Trig actively support him in offering good service.

However I could do the installation myself (Annex 2 aeroplane) with only a final verification by someone qualified. If you need to have all the installation done by a certified workshop, that may carry its price tag - but I still find 2000 GBP very very expensive.

I can't say anything about the TY96, though - but could it really be so much pricier? Isn't it basically the same device in a different case?

AFE at Kidlington have what look like some reasonable prices on both the Trig and the Icom panel radios both switchable between 8.33 and 25. I'll be taking a trip there to check the display brightness before committing.

I have another contact adjacent to Kidlington who is talking about £900 for a new set. I have no details with me. When I get back to my desk, I'll forward you contact details if you're interested. The price looks good !

I forgot to mention that I'm hearing rumours that unless you use an approved installer the warranty might be invalid.

That is industry standard, and understandably, too. It is not hard to destroy any piece of electronics, least of all if it contains a transmitter. Reversing the supply voltage and transmitting with no antenna connected are guaranteed recipes, to name but those two.

As I understand things, Trig leave their dealers/resellers some leeway in judging on this kind of matter. Good on them!

GTR 225A
 

Recently had this installed, and it's really good kit, but I think I bought more than I needed. It has a worldwide database of frequencies, and will identify who you are talking to, but only comes into its own when you connect to GPS source, so it knows where it is. As I'm very much a VFR kitted a/c (albeit with yoke-mounted 496), I'm not getting everything I could from it.

Despite that, it looks neat above the GTX328, and will look nicer still if I can ever afford Garmin ADS-B etc.

As the first period for claiming back against CAP1501 starts in 4 days, has anyone detected a claim form from CAA yet?

I've fitted the Icom panel mount. Slotted straight in and worked fine after a bit of fiddling with settings. Substantially less than two grand. You need to shop around.

We damaged a Trig when installing it ourselves. Their support was excellent.

Heard from AOPA today (we're corporate members, a good thing to be). They've been chivvying on a daily basis. Allegedly, it's still with legal who are agonising over whether or not it's legit. Give me strength.

TOO

Ah, that explains the deafening silence from the ministry of silly walks.
I bought a trig at the "right" time :) but certainly not holding my breath.

Thanks for all the replies.

As I already have a GNS430 (upgrading to WAAS later this year) I only need a second com to remain IFR compliant. The sets mentioned all have great features (world wide data base etc) but in essence all I need is (preferably) a minimum of 10Watts power and the ability to select a frequency.

I think the ICOM will be my choice as with an adapter it will 'plug and play' into my existing KY197 rack saving on labour, and it should pan out at around £1500 with a 20% rebate from our generous benefactors.

It will be installed by a maintenance company on the aircrafts annual and signed off as part of the radio certificate.

Hush my mouth. CAA claim form now available.

https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviati...g-application/

TOO

Thanks TOO, my application is in :)

Thanks TOO
 

I'll be sending them my "valentine" tomorrow :ok:

Regards

CT

You don't need a second 8.33 radio to be IFR compliant if you're operating under Part NCO. The second radio can remain 25kHz ans used only on specified retained frequencies such as 121.5.

Even though Part.NCO only requires one COM for IFR, to my knowledge the fight is still open with some NAAs trying to sneak through the back door, even if this is in contrast to EU regulations. We'll see who wins.

What to do with the old stuff?
 

Spookily, when I put my old handheld on *bay (ICOM A20), I had 3 different bidders from Italy. One, of course, was successful, and the Global Shipping System took care of stuff and gave me protection of payment etc. But Italy must have same rules from January, so maybe they are fighting the new rules (or could the refugee smugglers need to keep in touch with their boats?.......).

We got £250 back on our old radio - I guess it went to the States as they're not changing and it was in really good condition.

TOO

Syria does not have the 833 rule, or?