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SouthendPilot 22nd Jun 2016 12:57

Bit of a drift. But I got some Mutt Muffs for the King Charles. He sits in the back with them on and just sleeps. Doesn't bother him at all.

Mutt Muffs

Parson 23rd Jun 2016 10:22

SouthendPilot - thanks for the link. Might give those a go!

Magic90 23rd Jun 2016 21:48


Originally Posted by Parson (Post 9411707)
Re your gun dogs, how do they get on in the air? Do you protect their hearing at all?

Reason I ask is I am thinking of taking the pup along sometime but not sure how she will cope (small terrier cross).

They are a breed which are very tolerant to noise, they have no issues with shotguns or fireworks even at very close range, we have had firework parties and the dogs will just run around unperturbed by the whole event.

Magic90 23rd Jun 2016 21:50


Originally Posted by His dudeness (Post 9412256)
Good thinking. I have seen some low hour pilots going through my cockpit and one thing that registered is, that that the guys that did a lot of flying in a short period of time right after getting their license or gaining a tyeprating were in the long run the "better" ones.

So I would like to suggest that when you bought the airplane and had your conversion, do yourself a favor and plan it so as to fly a lot right after the conversion to let things sink in deeply.

Happy landings !

Great advice thanks you.

Parson 24th Jun 2016 08:53

Yes Magic90, I appreciate that a gun dog will tolerate a gun shot.......

My concern was 1-2 hours of constant Lycoming drone which, although not as loud, is quite different.

wsmempson 24th Jun 2016 09:46

Sitting in the back of a PA32 trimmed out in the cruise is not unpleasant without a headset (it's still bloody noisy in the front, so Bose X's are a real bonus). It's certainly a damned sight more comfortable and quiet than the back of s SII landrover, so my guess is that if they don't mind the landrover, the Saratoga will be luxury by comparison.

skydiver548 24th Jun 2016 14:17

"Brunel" our red setter is absolutely fine in the back of the Saratoga, often pop to Alderney 1 hour 20min or last summer to Lands End 2 hours. She just settles down and goes to sleep


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