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Ah thanks, I misunderstood! Obviously a triumph of hope over experience on my part! :)
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It is not a brooch. It is an official RAF pilot's brevet as designed to be worn by a qualified RAF pilot on his/her No.5 mess kit jacket.
I was awarded my wings in 1962 after two years of bloody hard work and I wore them proudly on my various RAF uniforms until I left the RAF in 1979. I never wore them again but wore other employers' wings as appropriate for the next 26 years. I really object to seeing someone wearing RAF wings when they are not entitled. I simply cannot understand how you can refer to them as a brooch. You have let yourself down badly in my estimation. |
Terry,
If you "do not remotely think she was remotely attempting to impersonate an RAF pilot", why do you think she was wearing RAF pilot's wings? |
If she sought to impersonate an RAF pilot, she would have worn the proper full size wings, and not an insignia (set of mess kit wings which would never have been worn on a flying suit), that was over 60 years old!
I give up in trying to argue ......! Like others I cannot and will accept impersonation by people in uniform, but in terms of the wings I do not accept that she was attempting to decieve. Why would she need or want to? We could start a new thread elsewhere about drone controllers sitting in a poracsbin wearing a flying suit adorned by "RAF issued drone pilot wings" which look like the real thing, notwithstanding that they have never flown an aeroplane. One needs to be very sharp eyed to tell the difference!
Originally Posted by JW411
(Post 9605063)
It is not a brooch. It is an official RAF pilot's brevet as designed to be worn by a qualified RAF pilot on his/her No.5 mess kit jacket.
I was awarded my wings in 1962 after two years of bloody hard work and I wore them proudly on my various RAF uniforms until I left the RAF in 1979. I never wore them again but wore other employers' wings as appropriate for the next 26 years. I really object to seeing someone wearing RAF wings when they are not entitled. I simply cannot understand how you can refer to them as a brooch. You have let yourself down badly in my estimation. |
Originally Posted by terry holloway
(Post 9605097)
If she sought to impersonate an RAF pilot, she would have worn the proper full size wings, and not an insignia (set of mess kit wings which would never have been worn on a flying suit), that was over 60 years old!
I give up in trying to argue ......! Like others I cannot and will accept impersonation by people in uniform, but in terms of the wings I do not accept that she was attempting to decieve. Why would she need or want to? We could start a new thread elsewhere about drone controllers sitting in a poracsbin wearing a flying suit adorned by "RAF issued drone pilot wings" which look like the real thing, notwithstanding that they have never flown an aeroplane. One needs to be very sharp eyed to tell the difference! |
As the thread starter I am now convinced her deception extends far beyond her flights.
Low flying and wearing an RAF brevet are just small components in the whole 'Aviatrix' story I am puzzled why Tracey,who is clearly an articulate and intelligent woman,did not set out to genuinely emulate Mary Heath and Amy Johnson in a DH. She really could have reflected how hard it was sitting a Tiger Moth for hours on end with a limited panel. The broadcast video story would have been a lot more fact than fiction. Perhaps Amanda Harrison could still do it? |
Terry,
I say again, why do you think she was wearing RAF pilot's wings? You posted a reply to my previous one did not not answer my question. |
Originally Posted by terry holloway
(Post 9605049)
I understand the pride in RAF wings only too well. One doesn't serve for 34 years without "getting it"! Also recognise the emotion of pretence, but I do not remotely think she was remotely attempting to impersonate an RAF pilot, and certainly not with that brooch!
What really makes me see red is blatant impersonation of "veterans" either by uniform, insignia or medals. One sees plenty of people doing that in "fancy dress" at Goodwood events and elsewhere, and I really don't think TCT is in that category! You are an RAF "veteran" (many of us here are, too), but not an RAF qualified pilot. You "see red" by non-entitled persons wearing uniform, insignia or medals because you earned the right to wear those, but not the RAF wings, so they don't count. Double standards apply, it seems. BTW, She doesn't wear a "brooch"; it's an RAF flying badge, of the sew - on type. After 34 years you should know that, too. I got in touch with Ms. T C-T via her own website asking about her entitlement to wear the RAF flying badge. The automated reply was almost immediate, saying she would address my question as soon as possible. That was coming up for two months ago. Obviously, it's not an easy question for her to answer. I'm not holding my breath waiting. |
Lomcevak
I think you may have meant "why do you think she was NOT wearing RAF pilot's wings"..... |
In defence of TCT I cannot find any reference where she claimed she was "trained by RAF pilots".
There is a claim which has been much edited In Auckland she earned her private and commercial pilot's licences, and her instructor rating.[4][7] While living in New Zealand, she joined the New Zealand Warbirds and began to fly vintage planes and to learn aerobatics and formation flying.[5] However I reckon her training was very good. I understand this was on a Harvard she flew with ex husband Steve Taylor. Enthusiast gets high on 'aerial Ferrari' thrills | Stuff.co.nz She was born Tracey Curtis but the hyphen name Curtis Taylor comes from her ex husband. Her wiki page reads..... She initially became interested in aviation while visiting air shows on the west coast of Canada with her family;[5] her father in particular had a passion for vintage cars and planes.[6] She had her first flying lesson at the age of 16, in British Columbia. She started to fly more regularly while living in New Zealand in the early 1980s, first in Queenstown and later at Ardmore Aerodrome in Auckland. In Auckland she earned her private and commercial pilot's licences, and her instructor rating.[4][7] While living in New Zealand, she joined the New Zealand Warbirds and began to fly vintage planes and to learn aerobatics and formation flying.[5] Aviation career[edit] In the late 1990s, Curtis-Taylor was involved in the organization of the Flying Legends show at Duxford Aerodrome, England.[7][8] From 2008 until 2013 she took part in fly-bys at Old Warden Aerodrome in Bedfordshire, England,[9] often flying a Ryan PT-22 military trainer. In 2011, she flew in the Flying Legends show at Duxford Aerodrome.[10][11] In December 2012, Curtis-Taylor was part of a Russian team flying an Antonov An-2 biplane from Kiev to Cape Town, arriving in February 2013. She flew at the Amy Johnson Memorial Air Show at Herne Bay, Kent, England, in 2015[12] as well as the Cowes Regatta in 2013, 2014 and 2015. With her aeroplane, the Boeing-Stearman "Spirit of Artemis", she was on static display at the Royal International Air Tattoo and the RNAS Yeovilton Air Days in 2013, 2014 and 2015, at the Goodwood Revival / Glorious Goodwood in 2014, at the 2015 Dubai Airshow and the 2014 and 2016 Farnborough International Airshow. Cape Town to Goodwood flight, 2013[edit] In 2013, Curtis-Taylor flew a Boeing-Stearman biplane in an eight-week journey, covering over 13,000 km, from Cape Town, South Africa to Goodwood Aerodrome, England.[13] The journey comprised a total of 38 legs and 110 basic VFR flying hours,[9] and followed the 1928 flight of Mary, Lady Heath, from Cape Town to Cairo, Egypt,[7][14] travelling over Zimbabwe, Zambia, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda and Sudan. One section of Lady Heath's flight, the leg through Libya, could not be completed due to security issues.[5] The journey took five years to prepare for, including finding a biplane which would cope with the heat of Africa.[5] After a search in several countries, Curtis-Taylor decided to have a 1942 Boeing- Stearman restored.[9] Though much more modern, the biplane was similar to Lady Heath's in size and design, but had advantages such as a more powerful engine, additional fuel tanks,[15] a GPS navigation system, and a transponder for use in controlled airspace.[13] One of the legs of the journey was shared with a retired Royal Air Force Group Captain pilot and historian, Bill Sykes, and sought to locate the site where Lady Heath crash-landed in 1928.[4] She also sourced sponsors for the trip, including Boeing and ExecuJet Aviation Group.[5] The main sponsor was Artemis Investment Management, and the biplane was hence named Spirit of Artemis.[13] In 2014, the Light Aircraft Association awarded Curtis-Taylor the Bill Woodhams Trophy for a "feat of navigation, aviation, tenacity and endurance" on her flight from Cape Town to the United Kingdom.[16][17] In October 2016 members of the association voted to rescind the award.[18] In a written statement, Curtis-Taylor said that the rescission vote was the result of an online media campaign by Sam Rutherford, her former logistics manager who had been withdrawn from participating in the journey, and his associates to discredit her flying achievements.[17][19] In newspaper reports Curtis-Taylor has denied making "false assertions about the nature of my flights"[20] and has stated 'To suggest I have hoodwinked the public, deceived all my sponsors, the media, everyone, is just disgraceful'.[21] Farnborough to Sydney flight, 2015-16[edit] On 1 October 2015 Curtis-Taylor departed from Farnborough, England, flying Spirit of Artemis, arriving in Sydney, Australia on 9 January 2016.[22] The journey was inspired by pioneer aviator Amy Johnson, who flew solo from England to Australia in 1930. The flight path was across 23 countries in 50 legs.[22][23] She was accompanied by a small support crew in a modern plane who documented the journey.[6][24] Several stopovers were scheduled into the flight, often with the aim of introducing Curtis-Taylor to local communities and to inspire others, particularly women.[25] In Dubai, the plane was part of the Boeing display at the Dubai Airshow in the United Arab Emirates,[6] while Curtis-Taylor was a keynote speaker at the International Aviation Women's Association conference.[26] In Pakistan Curtis-Taylor was hosted by Squadron Leader Saira Batool of the Pakistani Air Force,[27] and visited a school in Karachi with Pakistani mountaineer Samina Baig to speak about their adventures and to inspire the children.[28][29] In Singapore, she met with girls and women involved in the UN Women programme Girls2Pioneers, which aims to encourage young women into STEM careers.[25] In October 2015, she was appointed an Honorary Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy Reserve.[30] In May 2016, the Air League presented her with a framed address in recognition of her flight from Farnborough to Sydney.[31][32] In July 2016, the University of Portsmouth, England, awarded her an honorary doctorate degree.[33] Also in 2016, the Honourable Company of Air Pilots awarded her its Masters Medal for her work in "raising awareness of science and technology in general, and aviation in particular, amongst young women across the world".[34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracey_Curtis-Taylor |
The automated reply was almost immediate, saying she would address my question as soon as possible. That was coming up for two months ago. Obviously, it's not an easy question for her to answer. I'm not holding my breath waiting. In an earlier post I suggested that an unwillingness to address these questions would in itself provide an eloquent answer. We are still waiting. |
In defence of TCT I cannot find any reference where she claimed she was "trained by RAF pilots". |
Mr Torque Sir,
I think that the actual words used were that she was trained by "military pilots". The truth may be that she did her PPL under instructors who were perhaps ex NZ Air Force. It's hardly worth mentioning unless you are in the business of "bigging yourself up". In the same breath, she mentions that the (ex ?) military pilots trained her to fly "warbirds". If by that she means Harvards then again, the truth is being somewhat stretched. See also her (static) "displays" at Farnborough (parked in a corner behind the catering enclosure). Yours aye B Fraser, trained by a (former) RAF display pilot (mate) to fly aeros in a cold war spy plane (aka a Chipmunk). |
I would welcome such an answer from Terry Holloway.
Having first crossed swords with him on the letters page of Pilot magazine I have come to respect his career and bravery to post on this forum. Indeed his input to the Kirk Africa issues deserves serious compliments. Just google Terry and you will see his career is worth admiration. In my humble opinion the TCT Aviatix story will not disappear if the National Geographic TV channel air the upcoming documentary of her Farnborough to Sydney flight. The problem she now faces is part of the reason the sponsors got on board that expedition was a return in positive publicity. If you were sitting in a typical 10.00am global programme production in meeting in London how would you sell the airing of the Aviatrix? Could you admit it was all recorded on a tissue of lies? It was not a solo flight! The low flying claims breached aviation laws in many countries where permits and flight plans were breached? The global press will have a field day revealing the lies exposed on here. |
is this Holloway guy the best that her PR team could find to defend her honour? Terry Holloway is a man deserving of respect; and ad hominem attacks of this kind are, in my view, entirely unjustified. I may disagree with his views on Ms Curtis-Taylor, but I respect his willingness to argue them. I would also point out that he said he would pass on the questions I asked to her, and I have no reason to doubt that he has done so. The decision to ignore them can only be hers. |
I'm sorry but the RAF wings that this lady is falsely sporting on her flying suit are indeed official RAF wings and they are identical to the wings that I wore on my RAF mess kit.
The only difference is that she is wearing RAF wings with the King's Crown and mine are quite correctly with the Queen's Crown (perhaps she picked them up at a car boot sale)? As to your attempted defence of said lady wearing RAF wings when she is not entitled, please re-read where it says in my previous posting: "You have let yourself down badly in my estimation". That means: "You have let yourself down badly in my estimation". I strongly suspect that you are protecting your six o'clock and I can't blame you for that. |
perhaps she picked them up at a car boot sale I would wager that they came from the same source as the Hon Lt Cmdr RN Reserve. Only time, and possibly the tabloids, will tell. |
Originally Posted by Jay Sata
(Post 9605160)
I would welcome such an answer from Terry Holloway.
Having first crossed swords with him on the letters page of Pilot magazine I have come to respect his career and bravery to post on this forum. Indeed his input to the Kirk Africa issues deserves serious compliments. Just google Terry and you will see his career is worth admiration. In my humble opinion the TCT Aviatix story will not disappear if the National Geographic TV channel air the upcoming documentary of her Farnborough to Sydney flight. The problem she now faces is part of the reason the sponsors got on board that expedition was a return in positive publicity. If you were sitting in a typical 10.00am global programme production in meeting in London how would you sell the airing of the Aviatrix? Could you admit it was all recorded on a tissue of lies? It was not a solo flight! The low flying claims breached aviation laws in many countries where permits and flight plans were breached? The global press will have a field day revealing the lies exposed on here. My position is clear: 1. I know TCT, but have seen her only once in the last two years. That was when she called in to The Cambridge Aero Club three weeks ago for just 30 mins to see me and our Chief Test Pilot. 2. I've spoken to her on the phone twice in the last two weeks and as requested have passed on the questions. I really don't know, but I guess she is probably reading this threading any event. 3. I am most definitely not her spokesman, and de facto have not been put up to anything by her PR team. ( actually I think that's her but I really don't know!) 4. I happen to think that notwithstanding any emotion by RAF pilots about "their" wings, she was not trying to "pretend" to be an RAF pilot by wearing that badge, and I dare say that if anyone had told her it was wrong she would have removed it. I bet she is not wearing it now! 5. I hope that one day TCT will herself, either here or elsewhere, respond to the questions which I simply cannot answer. 6.I've not heard her talk in public, but someone I respect heard her talking In public fairly recently,( I don't know where or when, and it doesn't really matter to me), and said she spoke very enthusiastically and very well, and that there was no reference to solo flight. As I recall it,that was the issue which Sam Rutherford and Jay Sata highlighted in the first instance, and I seem to think she has apologised for any "misunderstanding" About that, and particularly in the media. I agree, she should have corrected those misleading and inaccurate "solo" reports at the time. |
Terry
Thanks for this: it makes your role in this perfectly clear :ok: I've spoken to her on the phone twice in the last two weeks and as requested have passed on the questions. We can but draw the inevitable conclusion from Ms Curtis-Taylor's silence. |
I endorse Jonzarno's comments and once again I must praise Terry Holloway for his candid and honest posts.
I would expect nothing less of a retired RAF officer. His efforts with Kirk say a lot about him as a man. However Tracey appear to still wants to lie about her endeavours. If I was in her shoes I would delete the whole wiki page. Nothing worth noting there and no history. The entry may come back to haunt her. In December 2012, Curtis-Taylor was part of a Russian team flying an Antonov An-2 biplane from Kiev to Cape Town, arriving in February 2013. She flew at the Amy Johnson Memorial Air Show at Herne Bay, Kent, England, in 2015[12] as well as the Cowes Regatta in 2013, 2014 and 2015. With her aeroplane, the Boeing-Stearman "Spirit of Artemis", she was on static display at the Royal International Air Tattoo and the RNAS Yeovilton Air Days in 2013, 2014 and 2015, at the Goodwood Revival / Glorious Goodwood in 2014, at the 2015 Dubai Airshow and the 2014 and 2016 Farnborough International Airshow. She has no Russian licence and was a passenger. 'Static display? on static display at the Royal International Air Tattoo and the RNAS Yeovilton Air Days in 2013, 2014 and 2015, at the Goodwood Revival / Glorious Goodwood in 2014, at the 2015 Dubai Airshow and the 2014 and 2016 Farnborough International Airshow. Static display... Here is my old bird at Cobra Station West Australia 1989. Picked her up at Troy Michigan and had a years fun with no sponsors but an ex wife and two very small kids. https://s28.postimg.org/yh82ampv1/image.jpg I guess you might like to look at the old mail run. https://s17.postimg.org/6lnu8nfqn/image.png |
Originally Posted by Above The Clouds
(Post 9571401)
With all the fore roar regarding the wearing of RAF wings, has anyone for one moment actually considered they maybe only there for advertising along with the other sponsors badges on her grow bag. http://static.english.pradesh18.com/...ntitled-13.jpg She doesn't wear any wings when in the official uniform of the RNR. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...f9doHNgMFC1wyM Equally comments in the media, changes to her wiki page are almost certainly being made by the PR team and not directly by TC-T herself, has anyone thought maybe she is not in control of the PR team as they are there to make money and TC-T could be a pawn in an otherwise money making machine hence no public comment from TC-T other than on a Facebook page and website that she probably doesn't edit or control. |
was she wearing the wings along with the other badges as part of the advertising campaign ? |
I don't think Tracey knows what a hard days flying feels like.
More importantly I doubt she has ever felt the stress of owning an aircraft and coping alone and funding it when it all goes wrong. Pretty much summed up by the magic quote to Sam Rutheford during the Africa trip... "What could be more important than getting my luggage to the hotel".? We have two interesting threads running on long distance flying. If I had to pitch a tv reality documentary tomorrow it would be Two Pilots In an Aeroplane. Kirk and TCT.:ok: In answer to the post by Jonzaro Well, it should be easy enough to get the RAF to confirm that they asked her to wear a set of pre-1953 wings as part of their sponsorship....... I would suggest they confirm the era of the brevet. |
Originally Posted by Jay Sata
(Post 9605253)
In answer to the post by Jonzaro
A Freedom of Information request will get the reply. I would suggest they confirm the era of the brevet. |
I don't think Tracey knows what a hard days (sic) flying feels like.
Probably knows more than 99% of the contributors to this thread. Is it frustrating that you've got nothing left to aim your spite at? |
Originally Posted by FlyingGoat
(Post 9605263)
I don't think Tracey knows what a hard days (sic) flying feels like.
Probably knows more than 99% of the contributors to this thread. Is it frustrating that you've got nothing left to aim your spite at? |
Jonzarno states it bluntly.
Three simple questions. How hard are they to answer? I still question her wiki page Please don't have a go at Terry. he certainly warrants a wiki article. First Englishman to succeed in Flying Glider over the Andes to Argentina at 27,000ft and at -60 degrees Fahrenheit over Mount Aconcagua in 1996. His love of all things aeronautical drove Terry Holloway to join the Royal Air Force as an Engineering Apprentice at RAF Halton in 1962. He received his Commission four years later and served in a wide variety of Royal Air Force appointments in UK and abroad. Terry’s capabilities were recognised with the rank of Group Captain at the age of 42. Utilising his engineering, logistics, processors and methodology skills he grasped the opportunity to transfer to the business environment after serving in RAF for 34 years, and joined the Marshall Group of Companies. The Group is the UK’s leading privately owned independent aerospace and automotive company and owners of Cambridge Airport.He is responsible for marketing, public relations, community activities and special projects across the diverse global group and has helped it to become the £1 billion turnover company that it is today. A keen pilot who flew light aircraft and gliders throughout his career, he obtained his Private Pilot’s Licence in 1963 and is a life member of the Royal Air Force Gliding and Soaring Association. Among many other private interests and honorary positions, Terry is Vice Chairman of The Air League, and is a liveryman of the Guild of Air Pilots and Air Navigators.In addition to Leader of the Expedition in the month long, high risk glider flight over the Andes to Argentina, (scattered with many aircraft and pilots who had not succeeded), Terry further displayed his endurance capabilities and flying when he accomplished a solo light aircraft flight from Cambridge to Seattle in 2000, and a flight to the north of Norway in 2005. He celebrated the 50th anniversary of his first solo flight on 21st March 2011.Recognised as an aviation expert and aviation historian, he regularly appears on TV and on radio to talk about topical aviation matters, and is frequently guest speaker on cruise ships talking about a wide range of aviation topics, including the Development of the Jet Engine, Unusual Flying Machines, the Genius of R J Mitchell and Flying Boats. As a University Business Academic, Terry is invited to talk to a number of Cambridge University Departments, which has included the Judge Institute of Engineering, Lake Forest and Rutgers University in the USA and to some MBA courses. Which begs the question regarding her wiki entry which is fictional comparing the above. As for me? Just a boring old VFR pilot enjoying global flying. Ask as many questions as you want. |
Terry has been brave to come here and discuss issues that are well beyond his remit.
A quick google will tell you what he has achieved. Terry gained his Private Pilot’s Licence at the Luton Flying Club in 1963 having first achieved a “C” gliding certificate. He learned to fly on Austers soloing in 3 hrs 25 minutes and, subsequently purchased a share in a Tiger Moth. Since then, he has flown over 100 types of light aircraft and has been involved in glider towing, parachute dropping, air to air photography, air to ground photography as well as recreational and business flying. He has completed a number of long distance flights in light aircraft including to the North of Norway and the Mediterranean. In 2000, he flew a Piper Aztec from England to the United States down the East coast, across the mid West and up the West coast to Seattle. He has maintained a keen interest in vintage aircraft having flown and operated a de Havilland 87b Hornet Moth and Tiger Moths over a number of years. He holds a Civil Aviation Authority Display Authorisation, is a highly accomplished formation pilot and has been a regular performer at flying displays throughout the UK. Terry flies on British and American pilots Licences with multi-engined and Instrument ratings, and regularly flies his Company’s PA27 Aztec, and a variety of light aircraft. He has amassed in excess of 5,500 hours in powered aircraft which brings his total flying experience to more than 8500 hours, in 193 different aircraft and glider types. Sadly he has no Wiki entry! |
Mr. Holloway is as welcomed a contributor as everyone else, and entitled to his opinion, as is everyone else. Let's not expect him to speak for Ms. Curtis Taylor.
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
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Mr. Holloway is as welcomed a contributor as everyone else, and entitled to his opinion, as is everyone else. Let's not expect him to speak for Ms. Curtis Taylor.
It would be great if Ms Curtis-Taylor could be persuaded to answer for herself. Sadly there seems to be little sign of that happening, which seems strange given her apparent willingness to reach out and address so many other audiences. :confused: :hmm: |
She avoided the British Women Pilots Association Christmas dinner although on the agenda to appear and talk.
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata
(Post 9605273)
Jonzarno states it bluntly.
Three simple questions. How hard are they to answer? I still question her wiki page Please don't have a go at Terry. he certainly warrants a wiki article. Pretty hard to argue with that! Which begs the question regarding her wiki entry which is fictional comparing the above. As for me? Just a boring old VFR pilot enjoying global flying. Ask as many questions as you want. I have flown solo a lot and flown many long flights,but the Seattle flight in 2000 was in an Aztec sharing the flying with a friend. I led the First RAF gliding expeditition to Chile in 1996 and the coldest it got - I think - was -40c! It was very cold! Other Englishman might have been there before us but the Chileans didn't know! There would have been a big feature about us (5 RAF glider pilots - all non RAF professional aircrew, including two corporals!) in The Sunday Mail when we got back, but the IRA blew up the City of London and that stole the news! |
Terry Holloway, alas, the Sunday Mail feature all set to tell about you and your fellow RAF glider pilots who flew over those chilly Andean mountains back in 1996 suffered from the same fate as did the story about Harriet Quimby way back in 1912.
She flew SOLO in her Blierot monoplane across the channel from England to France in 59 minutes. Another news item took priority over her story....the Titanic sank the day before and grabbed all the headlines. |
In a similar vein and an attempt to prevent the key questions getting lost in recent posts, here they are again.
Honest answers should have been easy to provide, which is why I firmly believe there has been, and continues to be, deliberate deception. The questions we want answering are not difficult questions. Same with Portsmouth University and the FOI request, if it was clear-cut I would have expected a reply by now. The 22nd December they have been given is a deadline-date, not a target date. 1. What is the reconciliation between Ms Curtis-Taylor's well documented claim to have flown her african flight "solo" (Please see the video clip published earlier in this thread in which she personally makes that claim) and her subsequent public statement that the flight was not solo? 2. Given the above, what was she doing in the picture of her published earlier in this thread standing in front of a huge picture claiming she had been "Alone in an open cock-pit [sic] plane"? 3. By what authority, and with what qualification, does she wear RAF wings? ******* In addition I would like answers to the following - When exactly did the sponsorship requests begin? - What did the investors THINK they were getting? - When was it decided that these would not be a solo flights? - Why was the solo aspect dropped? - Were the sponsors informed of this material change? - If so, when? - Why was it felt necessary that the front seat would be occupied for the vast majority of the journey by Ewald? - What steps did TCT take to correct the many SOLO headlines? - Where is the evidence to show this even happened? - Why, many months after the return to the UK, was TCT perpetuating the SOLO claim? |
I appreciate you trying keeping things on message SWB, but I think you're pissing into the wind as we all know the answers to those questions and the person you want a response from can't answer them accurately without showing that the whole thing was a fraud from the get go, which she isn't going to do. I think she will keep her head down till this whole thing blows over then look around to see what her marketability is on the after dinner speakers circuit. I doubt very much there will be any more "expeditions and outreach" as commercial sponsors aren't going to go near her, the Herne Bay vid and the "Alone" photo put paid to that.
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I see the sentiment but we don't know the answers, we can only guess by her evasion what they will be. The pissing-into-the-wind metaphor works well, it does seem like we are on a futile task ...at the moment, but time will come when the wind direction changes.
It is a real shame that honest answers are not forthcoming because I see that as the only way she can regain any credibility, show she has integrity, and use her story-telling talents to good use. Ok, she messed up, rode the glory and got rumbled; admitting that then she would be free to move on and perhaps do some real "outreach". She may even be able to get corporate sponsorship if she is honest and open at the start as to her intentions. TCT, there is still a dignified way out of this mess. Hiding won't work, this won't just blow over. |
History won't be as kind as she might have once hoped.
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Is there any news from the Portsmouth University F.O.I. request?
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The latest edition of the Company's 'Grip and Grin' gazette Air Pilot includes a review of the Trophies and Awards Banquet.
Merely listed as 'unable to attend' was T Curtis-Taylor. There was no other report regarding her award...that was all. |
She failed to attend the BWPA (British Women Pilots Association) annual dinner as well.
However I have private gold plated info that Prince Michael has played no part in her so called Aviatrix story. So I wish to withdraw any suggestion he played a part in promoting her Royal Navy status. It is important that innocent parties are not drawn in to this debacle. From gold plated other sources I can assure readers of this thread Boeing Aircraft Corporation were key players in assuring she got her awards from the Air League and the Honourable Company Of Air Pilots. I understand some key players in those organisations were not happy but Boeing got their way. In May 2016, the Air League presented her with a framed address in recognition of her flight from Farnborough to Sydney. "Her flight from Farnborough to Sydney" What exactly does that mean? |
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