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9 lives 31st Aug 2016 15:03


the way I read it this was referring to the sponsors of the award itself and not to the sponsors of TCT's trip
I know very little about the HCAP, and how they do things, but would not the HCAP be the sponsors of their own awards, and therefore make the final decision of the recipients of their awards, free of "outside" influence?

Sam Rutherford 31st Aug 2016 16:20

I am referring to Tracey's sponsors.

The HCAP does not have the freedom of movement that it should have, a very great shame. I don't know how the HCAP is funded, so am unable to clarify whether 'follow the money' would make things clearer...

Jonzarno 31st Aug 2016 16:34


Quote:
I know very little about the HCAP, and how they do things, but would not the HCAP be the sponsors of their own awards, and therefore make the final decision of the recipients of their awards, free of "outside" influence?
Not specifically in connection with HCAP, but I think it's quite common for awards of this type to be sponsored by third parties, usually companies.

I suspect that what has happened here is not that the sponsor has said: "You must give it to TCT" but rather that they have sponsored a single and individual award that is specified as going to one person to be chosen by the HCAP, whoever that may be.

That doesn't get HCAP off the hook as they have made the decision and, in the immortal words of Sir Humphrey Appleby, appear to have nailed their trousers to the mast making it difficult for them to climb down, even if the allegations against Ms Curtis-Taylor are obviously and manifestly true.

Sam Rutherford 31st Aug 2016 19:45

@Jonzarno

Actually, now your words: the sponsor has said: "You must give it to TCT"

And has additionally said that it cannot be jointly awarded to Ewald.

Mike Flynn 31st Aug 2016 20:46

There are lots of pieces to this strange jigsaw.

How you put them together is up to you.

However the main sponsors of the Spirit of Artemis are Artemis Fund Managers Artemis Fund Managers and Boeing Aircraft.

Artemis are linked to the UK royal family via their sponsorship of various sailing events where Zara Phillips and Mike Tyndall generate free publicity such as this..

Zara Phillips, 34, and her husband, Mike Tindall, 36, wore matching outfits during the Artemis Challenge on the Isle of Wight on Thursday.

The royal couple were wearing Artemis navy sweatshirts featuring long sleeves and turtle neck. Phillips, the 34-year-old equestrian, was also wearing an Artemis waterproof jacket, which she paired with a navy cap, Hello reported. The former English rugby player, meanwhile, opted for a matching team overall on top of his sweatshirt. And the couple finished off their look with pale gray sneakers with red trims.
Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall wear matching team outfits at Artemis Challenge
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ara-598249.jpg

The Patron of the HCAP is Zara's grandfather Prince Philip who is married to the Queen. The Grand Master of the HCAP is Zara Philips uncle Prince Andrew.

Completing the royals link to Tracey Curtis Taylor,Artemis and HCAP is Prince Michael who is a 'Liveryman' at HCAP and Patron of the Light Aircraft Association.

As I have mentioned before Boeing are linked to HCAP via Marshalls Aerospace .

Marshalls are also linked to the Air League. Robert Marshall is no stranger to Prince Philip.
Indeed here he is ....


The Air League Annual Reception was held in the very prestigious surroundings of St James’s Palace on Thursday, 31st May hosted by His Royal Highness Prince Philip The Duke of Edinburgh, who is Patron of The Air League. Marshall of Cambridge is a very strong supporter of The Air League and a number of employees attended the Reception. Robert Marshall, Chief Executive Officer of Marshall of Cambridge (Holdings) Ltd and his partner Tracey Curtis-Taylor, together with Steve and Beverley Fitz-Gerald, were presented to Prince Philip at the beginning of the evening on the arrival of Prince Philip in the Throne Room at St James’s Palace.
http://marshallgroup.co.uk/wp-conten...k-aut-2012.pdf

Jonzarno 31st Aug 2016 21:03


Actually, now your words: the sponsor has said: "You must give it to TCT"
Sam

I'm not sure what you mean by this: my point was that, IMO, the AWARD sponsor, as opposed to the sponsor of TCT's TRIP, is very unlikely to try to dictate who gets the award, although they may well insist that there is only one recipient as a general principle.

To be clear: I have no direct knowledge of this specific case, nor any involvement of any kind; but AFAIK, that is how sponsorships of this kind of award usually work.

Jonzarno 31st Aug 2016 21:09


Having backed a loser is one thing, we've all done it, but if they persist in covering up this fur cup, the big investors will ask what other catastrophic boobs are they also covering up?

I don't see Artemis making this public, but I can see the fingerprints of their rivals all over it.

TC-T could be to Artemis what Nick Leeson was to Barings.
Dream on! They may get their pi55er pulled at the next industry junket, and the exec that signed off the sponsorship will be made to feel stupid for a bit, but that's all.

Mike Flynn 31st Aug 2016 21:20

All of these so called 'aviation charities' or organisations appear to be involved in this murky tale.

The Air League are no strangers to Tracey Curtis Taylor and her Walter Mitty "aviatrix" flying.

Indeed Tracey is becoming quite a regular at St James Palace meeting up again with Prince Philip,patron of the Air League.

The Air League’s most prestigious award (very seldom presented) – The Founder’s Medal – was awarded to Major Tim Peake for his remarkable exploits in space, noting that he was the first Briton to walk in space. Tim, who is still circling the Earth aboard the International Space Station until 18 June, was unable to be present at the event but in a surprise phone call, which was listened to by the 350 guests, Tim “called down” and spoke to Prince Philip and The Air League Chairman Mr Christopher Walkinshaw, thanking them for this medal in recognition of his achievement. The Founder’s Medal was accepted from Prince Philip on Tim’s behalf by his parents Nigel and Angela Peake.

Mr Christopher Walkinshaw said: The Air League is delighted to recognise Tim Peake’s remarkable achievements which particularly have included the encouragement of young people. Since its foundation in 1909, the promotion of an interest in Aviation has remained one of The Air League’s principal aims.

Other awards were made to two long distance pilots for remarkable and inspiring flights in 2015: Johan Wiklund who flew a 1930s de Havilland Moth to S Africa, and Tracey Curtis- Taylor who flew a 1940s Boeing Stearman to Australia.
http://www.airleague.co.uk/wp-conten...chApril_16.pdf

Can anyone be bothered to ask the Air League if they check facts?

By the time they gave her a "framed address" this thread had been running for four months and Ewalds part in her " remarkable and inspiring" flight was well known.

Union Jack 31st Aug 2016 21:57

The Air League are no strangers to Tracey Curtis Taylor and her Walter Mitty "aviatrix" flying. - Jay Sata

Interesting that you should use that precise expression - I was just reading the latest posts and found myself wondering what the female equivalent of a "Walt" is.....:rolleyes:

Jack

Sam Rutherford 1st Sep 2016 05:42

The Master's Medal is not sponsored by anyone.

Chris Scott 1st Sep 2016 10:15

Quote from Jay Sata:
"By the time they gave her a "framed address" this thread had been running for four months and Ewalds part in her " remarkable and inspiring" flight was well known."

And even earlier, regarding her Cape Town to Goodwood flight:

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...ml#post9012078

Mike Flynn 1st Sep 2016 11:51

The Australian Women Pilots Association have been fooled.They failed to spot Ewald Gritsch up front as they taxied to the the hangar at Sydney. http://www.16right.com/Aircraft-Imag...160109-058.jpg

They gave her honourary membership to commemorate her "Solo flight from the UK to Australia".http://www.16right.com/Aircraft-Imag...160109-001.jpg
16R News - Tracey Curtis-Taylor - Solo United Kingdom To Sydney
Graham Hutchinson the photographer must be either blind or part of the charade. His title for the landing picture is

After commencing her solo flight in October 2015, and flying over 23 countries, Tracey Curtis-Taylor every so gently touches down on Runway 34R at Sydney International Airport
Ewald must be adept at escaping from the aircraft as he cannot be seen in any of the hangar pictures. No champagne or interviews for him:ok:

The whole arrival ceremony was carefully choreographed to maintain the solo illusion.

The question is how do the Australian Women Pilots Association feel about being part of this sham?

I have asked in an email to them today.

coldair 1st Sep 2016 13:05

I have been following this thread with interest. It's my daily 'go to' read.

However, one thing I can't understand is how did this lowish hour ppl from NZ get to know Royalty and all the sponsers ?

There must be a whole lot more to this - I'd love to know the answer !!


coldair

Sam Rutherford 1st Sep 2016 15:31

I wonder what she'll do with the certificate?! Put it on the wall or hide it in a box? All a bit difficult really...

Mike Flynn 1st Sep 2016 16:41

I think most of us would never be able to face looking at these awards at home Sam.

The feeling of guilt would be overwhelming.

She can never convince herself that the trips were solo.

It is like those who fill in false entries in their log books to expand flying hours enroute to a commercial
licence.

In the USA they view this sort of thing more seriously.


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mary meagher 1st Sep 2016 20:04

Reminds me of that solo sailor -what was his name? and he was indeed alone in his boat - who taking part in a sailing round the world event, actually only faffed about mid Atlantic, sending fake messages about his progress on track well on his way.....and in the end, perhaps overcome with shame, "fell overboard".....and only his deserted sailboat remained for rescuers to puzzle over. Harder to do these days with advances in communication.

Mike Flynn 1st Sep 2016 20:21

You are of course refering to the The Teignmouth Electron a 41-foot trimaran sailing vessel designed explicitly for Donald Crowhurst’s ill-fated attempt to sail around the world in the Golden Globe Race of 1968.


In 1968, the British Sunday Times newspaper initiated a new sailing competition called The Golden Globe Race.The deceptively simple objective was to succeed in the first non-stop, solo circumnavigation of the earth. Thirty-four year-old Donald Crowhurst, an inventor, amateur yachtsman, and family man, decided to enter the race. Without a proper boat or open-sea experience, he set out to design and construct, from the ground up, a new and untested vessel.

With his effective persuasiveness and an exuberant passion, Crowhurst managed to convince various high-profile funders of his winning intentions even though his boating experience had been limited mostly to weekend pleasure sailing.

The Teignmouth Electron, (an amalgam of the British town Teighmouth who partially sponsored the boat’s construction, and Crowhurst’s own fledgling but failing electronics company, Electron Utilities) was “completed” just days before the race’s deadline, leaving testing and innumerable details incomplete. The boat was 200 percent over budget. On 31 October, 1968, the last day possible to begin the race, the Teignmouth Electron and Donald Crowhurst sailed into the Atlantic.

The boat immediately experienced problems. She took on water, fittings broke, the generator failed, and communication equipment was still unfinished. Design flaws made the Electron nearly impossible to steer, resulting in a bizarre and erratic zigzag sailing pattern. During Crowhurst’s 243 days at sea difficulties would continue to escalate.

At some point Crowhurst, sensing the project’s failure and unable to reconcile how this failure would affect him personally, financially, and professionally (his failing company was leveraging a portion of the cost) began faking an elaborate and faux-heroic course around the world. Crowhurst kept two logbooks: one detailed his innermost thoughts along with accurate readings of his journey; the other held forged entries of his imaginary progress around the world.

In July 1969, after providing false readings to the race organisers for months, Crowhurst learned that the other sailors had either dropped out of the race or that their boats had fallen apart mid-course, leaving the Teignmouth Electron in position to not just finish, but actually win the race. This was too much to bear and mental anguish set in. Crowhurst felt that his only escape was death. On 10 July, 1969, the Teignmouth Electron was found ghosting in the Atlantic, empty. The last logbook entry was dated 3 July. The boat was found in a state of disarray but contained in plain view his detailed logbooks outlining his grand lie as well as what he believed to be his ultimate life’s work - ideas written directly to humankind with “instructions” on attaining transcendence.
source wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teignmouth_Electron

Interestingly there are similarities to Tracey Curtis Taylor.

To quote the Daily Mail expose...


Miss Curtis-Taylor’s website posted: ‘For the avoidance of doubt, I have always been the sole pilot of Spirit of Artemis.
‘In planning the expedition through Africa in 2013 there was an initial hope of a solo flight in the beautiful & original 1942 Boeing Stearman. However, in the early stages of the flight this concept was intentionally and officially dropped.’
Mr Gritsch admits he was in the forward cockpit for ‘the majority’ of the flights from Cape Town to Goodwood and Farnborough to Sydney. He said: ‘The situation was that it was not a solo flight.’
Sponsors Boeing and Artemis refused to comment and the BBC said it bought the documentary from production firm Nylon, who also declined to comment.


Read more: 'Solo' flying poster girl is brought down by claims that she had co-pilot | Daily Mail Online
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However Crowhurst was on his own trying to deceive the worlds media.

Tracey Curtis Taylor was part of a much broader public relations charade to convince the worlds media that the Spirit Of Artemis was being flown solo from Cape Town to Goodwood England by a woman who was "commemorating" the historic travels of Lady Mary Heath.

So having got all the sponsors on board and a tv crew making an independent documentary everyone suddenly discovered the terrible truth.

Tracey had never flown solo outside of familar local areas and her comfort zone.

Worse still she could not cope with the work load.

It was panic stations for the Artemis media advisor who had to some how rescue the situation. All this massive investment about to go down the plug hole.

Hence this

In planning the expedition through Africa in 2013 there was an initial hope of a solo flight in the beautiful & original 1942 Boeing Stearman. However, in the early stages of the flight this concept was intentionally and officially dropped.’
We never have had an explanation as to why it was dropped but Sam Rutherford and others I have spoken to claim she was not able to fly and navigate.

The answer was Ewald Gritsch who would fly the Spirit of Artemis while TCT was filmed as, to use her words.."the sole pilot".

It appears the trick worked so it was used again for the UK to Sydney 'Solo' trip.

I would like to say at this stage that Pprune have been excellent in not allowing this sorry story to be brushed under the carpet.

I understand the Spirit of Artemis is still tucked away in the Execujet hangar at Farnborough. Despite some superb UK flying weather TCT seems to have gone to ground.

Not much flying outreach going on:ok:

Mike Flynn 1st Sep 2016 21:02

It is now time to introduce the media man behind the Bird in the Biplane.
The link between Zara Phillips,Artemis and Tracey Curtis Taylor hence this picture.
Left to right TCT, Zara and her husband Mike Tyndall
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...tis-Taylor.jpg

Step forward Tim Kelly.:ok:

Based in New York & London
Independent and flexible consultant providing strategic support for agencies and stakeholders engaged in global sponsorship activities, with a particular focus on sport/adventure properties

ONGOING PROJECTS:

April 2015-Present: Consultant for Aviator Tracey Curtis-Taylor, managing PR, marketing, communications and sponsor relationships for Great Britain to Australia Flight

April 2014-Present: Communications consultant for North Sails:
- Developing and managing international PR strategy for North Sails
May 2008-Present: Management of sponsorship strategy and sponsorship media relations for Artemis Investment Management:
- Advising senior management on sponsorship rationale, activation and integration
- Ensuring visibility and media returns around title sponsorships in Ocean Racing (sailing), Ocean Rowing and other adventure activities, including the acclaimed title sponsorship of Walking with the Wounded and Cape Town to Goodwood
- Strategic management of all related media budgets, suppliers, content and partners
- Implemented successful personal sponsorship of Olympic Equestrienne Zara Phillips

RECENT PROJECTS:

March 2015-September 2015: Consultant to Movember charity to explore golf activation

April 2013-December 2015: Branded content and media relations for Mercedes-Benz global golf sponsorships, managing a full agency team reporting into Germany, UK and USA:
- Delivering worldwide visibility in media through creative branded video content and PR at The Masters, The Open and the US PGA Championship, as well as for Brand Ambassadors Adam Scott, Martin Kaymer, Bernhard Langer and Louis Oosthuizen

April 2013-June 2015: Marketing consultant for the WTA:
- Liaison between BNP Paribas/TEB and WTA to ensure successful activation as title sponsor for the WTA Championships in Istanbul 2013
- Ongoing advice and support to the European Marketing Solutions Team in 2014/201
He certainly gets results.


Tim Kelly (r) is in charge of organising the media
Ewan McGregor, Zara Phillips and Natalie Pinkham attract plenty of attention in Cowes before they set out for a day's sailing around the Isle of Wight in The artemis Challenge to raise £10000 for the Toe in the Water - the official charity of Aberdeen Asset Management Cowes Week 2011. These images show the media that are watching their every move.
So here he is on the right of this picture.https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6136/6...9cf0eed9_b.jpg

So the question is will Mr Kelly be joining Pprune to defend our solo "inspirational aviatrix"?

Or will the Spirit of Artemis dream end its days wrecked in the public spotlight in Arizona.
Buried in the small print.
Aircraft are like investments...they may go up, down or even crash. It would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall the morning he saw this lovely PR picture:ok: http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/741...x2-940x627.jpg

maxred 2nd Sep 2016 13:59

TCT Just finished an interview on BBC Radio Scotland....

She is the owner of Spirit of Artemis.
She has two aeroplanes, a Ryan PT22, and the Stearman. The Stearman is her favourite.
She is a qualified Commercial Pilot, and Qualified Instructor.
She does not fly professionally, bur for the love of it-a hobby.
She flew at tree top height, dodging power lines, in Romania, due to weather.
She flew through Israel, at 15 feet, in formation with another Stearman.
When she landed in Australia, she took the wings off the Stearman to ship it to the States for the Round the World epic.
The crash in Arizona, reached 60 feet, RPM drop of 300, she turned the plane through thirty degrees, and handled the crash landing.
At this stage in the interview, Ewald was mentioned as a crew member, who was on board at the time of the crash. It was the only mention of him....
She has no moving map for her epic trials, just an old rickety GPS, a map, and the wind in her hair.......

There you go.........

piperboy84 2nd Sep 2016 14:45


She is a qualified Commercial Pilot
So am I, and that certificate added to a few bucks will buy you a cup of coffee.

Being a commercially rated pilot sounds good when down the pub as it conjures up images to non-flyers of someone who flies 747's while sporting a blizzard of stripes and braids. Believe me I throw the "Commercial Pilot" bit around loudly and repeatedly when tying to impress women.(shallow and sad yes, but kidding on I'm an Olympic sprinter or premiere league footballer just aint gonna fly :ok:)

The reality is without type ratings and a real world job hauling fare paying passengers or students you're just a PPL bimbler who knows how to memorize the answers to more than 70% of the questions on the test and can do Chandeles and Lazy 8's to a relatively reasonable standard.

clareprop 2nd Sep 2016 14:46


just an old rickety GPS
Not sure I've heard the Garmin 430 described thus before but I may be wrong...

Reverserbucket 2nd Sep 2016 14:56


She is the owner of Spirit of Artemis
Which is what I understand those who I feel deserve to know better believed when I spoke to them. The FAA lists 56200 as registered to 3G Classic Aviation Inc. with a registered office in Wilmington, Delaware - I thought this was Ewald's company? I can understand that claiming to be the only one doing the flying whilst the 'navigator' takes care of the tricky stuff up front might be difficult to disprove whilst flying over the boondocks but why make such a blatantly false statement that can so easily be verified online? And she claims she has no moving map and only 'an old rickety GPS' (the pre-satellite GPS's were referred to as maps and came with aids such as a compass, chinograph pencils, protractors and rulers) - does she not know the G430 has a Moving Map Display?

And is she a Commercial Pilot? Does she hold either an EASA CPL or FAA Commercial, because the August 2015 AAIB report states that she held a PPL and the FAA register a Private Pilots Certificate. I'm not suggesting that she couldn't have achieved either or indeed both in the past year but she would appear to have been rather busy doing other things.

The only credible statement I read was where she said "she turned the plane through thirty degrees, and handled the crash landing"; judging by the images of the wreckage and knowing the surrounding terrain at Winslow, I can easily believe that.

This sounds like the stuff of fantasy to me and I am unable to understand why she would continue to maintain this apparent deceit, although I'm sure it's all water off a duck's back to Tim Kelly - no publicity is bad publicity. On second thoughts, maybe TCT is just a pawn caught up in something that has rapidly eclipsed her own ability and is now in it too deep to get out?

Cows getting bigger 2nd Sep 2016 16:15

I think TCT has taken the phrase 'Living the Dream' to a whole new level. :)

Stanwell 2nd Sep 2016 16:44

Her story gets better with every telling, doesn't it?


Does she even own that Ryan - or was it lent to her?

A pic of the Stearman's cockpit setup appears in post #902 on page 46.

"I had a lot of training, ironically with some military pilots .. etc." See canopener's post #244 on page 13.

Planemike 2nd Sep 2016 16:59

G-INFO shows the Ryan registered to TC-T. It currently does not have a c of A.......



On second thoughts, maybe TCT is just a pawn caught up in something that has rapidly eclipsed her own ability and is now in it too deep to get out?
Think you maybe near the truth, would take a "big" person to admit the truth and climb down.....

9 lives 2nd Sep 2016 17:00

Quoting the quote I presume that Airpolice attributes to TCT (I did not hear it myself)


"I do have some modern aids in my Stearman. I fly it with a compass and I've got, you know I do have a little GPS to give me A to B, but I've got no moving map, I have no terrain information. "
Maybe the avionics appearing in the photo in post 884, which appears to me to be a Garmin 430 (both moving map and terrain data base able) was unserviceable the whole time... Otherwise, were it to have been functioning as designed (airworthy), TCT is being dishonest about her "little" GPS.


"I have an ipad with my airspace because that's often a very difficult thing when you fly a vintage aeroplane through so many countries, crossing international borders, through military zones, restricted airspace, into international airports, it's very difficult to do with an aeroplane like this.""
I don't think that the type of plane makes it any more difficult to fly through military airspace and restricted zones!


"This is an aerobatic aeroplane, so I can be turning steeply around things. I had a lot of training, ironically with some military pilots, and I did a little bit of display flying, and formation flying and aerobatic training, so all of that really came together for these expeditions for the sort of flying that we're doing."
If you're "turning steeply around things" on a well planned long distance flight, you're doing it wrong!


"Sometimes I'm only half a wingspan away from rock faces, or flying the dead sea at about 15 feet in formation with another Stearman."
Well, there's some wisdom there, hitting rock faces can hurt a Stearman much more than hitting a parked R44. But, again, couldn't she plan a long distance flight to give her more than a half a wingspan clearance to obstacles? Aren't there regulations about minimum safe distances and altitudes? Did she not just admit to violating air regulations?! Do the authorities not have an interest tin this?

I sure hope that the inspireable new pilots of either gender are not paying any attention to this nonsense! It certainly is no service to mentoring safe piloting!

homonculus 2nd Sep 2016 20:23

Careful - the Delaware corporation may be a trust to circumvent the requirements for N registered aircraft to be owned by US citizens, legal residents or US controlled corporations. She may indeed be the preferential owner of the registration plate and whichever aircraft it is attached to at a particular time.

I must agree that this repetition is becoming monotonous. There is little point in complaining to the BBC about an interview that has been broadcast. Far better to turn up to TCT's next solo journey and ask some difficult questions / ask the passenger some difficult questions in front of the admiring press. Nothing the press likes more than a good story.

Mike Flynn 2nd Sep 2016 21:03

More 'solo' claims on her facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/birdinabiplane/



One Pilot Explains Our Deep Desire To Fly


In order to respect the power and ingenuity of modern day aircraft, you have to look to the past.
When female pilot Tracey Curtis-Taylor landed in Sydney, Australia after a 14,600-mile journey flying solo from the U.K. in a vintage open-cockpit biplane earlier this year, the first thing she said was "I need a drink!"

And who could blame her? The treacherous journey was far from easy. It took about three months in total and Curtis-Taylor encountered countless obstacles along the way. Not only did she fly through thick fog in Romania and dust storms in Saudi Arabia, but at one point she found herself surrounded by birds of prey over Pakistan. Eagles, buzzards and vultures swarmed around her. She knew that if one got into the engine it would prove fatal for both her and the bird.

Luckily Curtis-Taylor survived and made it to her destination safely. Her bravery is truly astounding. Trace Dominguez got a chance to catch up with her at this year's Farnborough International Airshow in Hampshire, England where she told him all about her vintage plane, a Boeing-Stearman named Spirit of Artemis.

A plane like this is "probably the best flying adventure in the world," Curtis-Taylor told Trace. She explained that they're almost like art more than they are machine -- an art that should be preserved because it's starting to die out.

Curtis-Taylor said she often encounters aviation students that don't know how to fly planes like these and she thinks it's quite a shame. "I think this generation needs to be reminded ya know, that civil aviation was based really on people like me getting into wooden-fabric airplanes," she told Trace.

That's the important thing to remember: aviation as we know it today wouldn't have been possible without people like Tracy Curtis-Taylor, her piloting skills, her passion, and her incredible bravery.

-- Molly Fosco
Perhaps someone can email this reminder from TCT ( UK ppl with around 1650 hours) to the Light Aircraft Association, the Air League and indeed the Honourable Company of Air Pilots so they get their collective heads around the issues these days of hands on solo flying.


A plane like this is "probably the best flying adventure in the world," Curtis-Taylor told Trace. She explained that they're almost like art more than they are machine -- an art that should be preserved because it's starting to die out.
Those Honourable Company of Air Pilots member who sit down to the wonderful awards dinner in six weeks time need to embrace the problems highlighted by our intrepid "Aviatrix and Inspirational" pilot.:ok

Curtis-Taylor said she often encounters aviation students that don't know how to fly planes like these and she thinks it's quite a shame. "I think this generation needs to be reminded ya know, that civil aviation was based really on people like me getting into wooden-fabric airplanes,"
She of course omits to mention that it helps if the guy who built the aircraft is sitting in the front seat and is a 20,000 hour commercial pilot.

Take a bow for the HCAP,Air League and Light Aircraft Asssociation ...Mr Ewald Gritsch.
http://cache3-img1.pressdisplay.com/...D%3D&scale=100

Cows getting bigger 2nd Sep 2016 21:30

air police - cadets, maybe so. The air cadets didn't take girls until about 1983.

Mike Flynn 2nd Sep 2016 21:50

The BBC Radio Scotland interview is here...

BBC Radio Scotland - Out for the Weekend, 02/09/2016


"This is an aerobatic aeroplane, so I can be turning steeply around things. I had a lot of training, ironically with some military pilots, and I did a little bit of display flying, and formation flying and aerobatic training, so all of
This is a total lie.

Tracey was never been trained by any military pilots despite her claims.

During her time at Ardmore in Auckland New Zealand she was married to Steve Taylor who is well respected award winning aerobatic pilot. The Taylor in her name is gained from being married to him. All her aero experience was flown with Steve.

She claims she was a commercial pilot but most of that was ground instructing at Ardmore hence her lack of hours.
Her "30 years of flying " is a myth.

The spiel she turns out about lack of opportunity for women in aviation omits one key fact.

During her brief spell teaching ground school at Ardmore her boss was Liz Needham.

Liz Needham is New Zealand's most experienced woman pilot. She first went solo on St Valentine’s day in 1974, thus starting a long love affair with aviation. From her Aero club beginnings she has built up one of New Zealand's premier aviation training establishments and has continued on to where she is currently a Boeing 767 Captain for Air New Zealand. In her spare time she has become a huge influence within the general aviation and NZ Warbird scenes, amassing over 25,000 hours of flying, a lot of it using her A category instructors rating. This rating is awarded to the top instructors in New Zealand, and Liz was the first female pilots to achieve this.

For many years now she has flown her own Harvard in the Roaring Forties aerobatic display team as well as displaying her P40 Kittyhawk. As Frank is the President of New Zealand Warbirds, Liz rightly wears the name tag, "First Lady". We are proud to have Liz here today to fly her Kittyhawk and fly as 'No 2" in the Roaring Forties.
So why did Tracey never emulate her boss:ok:

Lack of opportunity? I don't think that story is true Tracey.

Your female boss at Ardmore was a genuine high flyer.

Liz Needham was part of NZ's first all female flight deck crew back in 1985 flying for Southern Cross.

On 29th of April 1985 the company made NZ aviation history with the country’s first all women flight crew on a commercial service when chief pilot, director and owner of the airline Liz Needham and First Officer Sarah Caldwell flew the morning Auckland-Whangarei-Auckland sectors in the Golden Eagle. On board was seventy year old aviatrix June Glen, one of a four woman pilot formation to meet and escort pioneering aviatrix Jean Batten to a landing at Wanganui in 1934.
Genuine women pilots there not emulating as you describe you antics.

All that opportunity on a plate and she could now be an Air New Zealand Captain just like Liz.http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/i...4355904514.jpg

No goggles or leather flying jacket for Liz when she pilots the Spitfire.

http://images.sunlive.co.nz/site/160...e-1604-023.jpg

Despite all her Sydney publicity there is not a single picture of Tracey back at Ardmore earlier this year.

One would have thought she might want to meet up,with all her flying chums after such an epic adventure:ok:

Footnote; Liz Needham comes from a flying family but despite her success in New Zealand refuses to have a wiki page.

sapperkenno 2nd Sep 2016 21:53


Airman: TRACEY CURTIS-TAYLOR
Personal Information
TRACEY CURTIS-TAYLOR

Address is not available
Medical
No Medical Available.
Certificates
PRIVATE PILOT(FOREIGN BASED)
Date of Issue: 9/23/2013
Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT(FOREIGN BASED) Print
Ratings:
PRIVATE PILOT (Foreign Based)
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND

Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
ISSUED ON BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY UNITED KINGDOM PILOT LICENSE NUMBER(S) GBR.FCL.PP.3365 94H.A.
ALL LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE UNITED KINGDOM PILOT LICENSE APPLY.
The FAA don't seem to think she has a Commercial certificate or any instructor qualifications...

Mike Flynn 2nd Sep 2016 22:29

Those of you with a long memory will know Barry Tempest as an aerobatic pilot and ex CAA man.
He was a member of the Rothmans Aerobatic team and spent nearly fourteen years working for the CAA.
To quote his Linked-in

Head of General Aviation - Operations at the UK CAA. I was with SRG for nearly 14 years from 1984 to 98
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shri...f8/0c7352e.jpg


He has around 15000 hours in his log book.

He posted this on Tracey Curtis Taylor's facebook page today.


Barry Tempest;
Your claimed exploits have put the cause of Women in Aviation back 40 years. If you accept the HCAP award in the autumn you should be ashamed.
https://www.facebook.com/birdinabiplane/

Many thanks Barry for backing my campaign.

The various key members of the LAA,HCAP and AirLeague will no doubt be aware of your comments and concerns.

When someone of Barry Tempests stature voices their opinion so strongly on the eve of the LAA Rally, maybe it is time to take a second look at these so called awards dished out to a low houred but well connected 'pilot' who clearly has never been solo on any of her well publicised 'adventures'.

At the very least his comments are worth discussion over the coming weekend?


As for her 'commercial' qualifications.

She briefly held a basic grade 3 commercial pilots licence at Ardmore, Auckland, New Zealand in the 1990's. This lapsed nearly two decades ago. So,her claims of being a "30 year aviatrix" are pure buls@it.

It appears from my information that following a brief spell as a ground instructor she left Ardmore to work as a salesperson punting aerial photographs.

She appears to have not claimed any other occupation in the UK since she arrived from New Zealand around the year 2000. However she suddenly emerged as the Bird in the Biplane in 2013.

Her boss at Ardmore was Liz Needham who is the most successful female commercial and display pilot in NZ.

Footnote: All my posts carry links to substantiate and are not based on personal hearsay, other rumours or conjecture. If there are any errors I will be pleased to correct them.

Union Jack 2nd Sep 2016 22:55

Careful - the Delaware corporation may be a trust to circumvent the requirements for N registered aircraft to be owned by US citizens, legal residents or US controlled corporations. - Homonculus

Interesting, not least since this tends to confirm something similar about Delaware that I seem to recall from the Robert Weaver saga. I must of course strongly emphasise this is purely an observation, and absolutely nothing else.

Jack

India Four Two 3rd Sep 2016 04:47


Quote:
She is the owner of Spirit of Artemis
Which is what I understand those who I feel deserve to know better believed when I spoke to them. The FAA lists 56200 as registered to 3G Classic Aviation Inc. with a registered office in Wilmington, Delaware - I thought this was Ewald's company?
I had a look at the FAA registry and I see that 3G Classic Aviation Inc owns five Stearmans plus a J3 and a Ryan. Perhaps they all belong to TCT? ;)

Incidentally, I had a look at registrations by State. There are 12,038 aircraft registered in Delaware, which is almost entirely due to Delaware's attractive corporation laws. My first job in the oil industry was working for Chevron in Calgary, but the company was registered in Delaware.

Sam Rutherford 3rd Sep 2016 07:20

My first plane was registered in Delaware, and my current plane is registered in Delaware - it's the standard route by which non-US citizens can 'own' a US registered aircraft.

Could of course be in any state, but Delaware is a tax-friendly so is chosen by nearly all Trusts...

paperHanger 3rd Sep 2016 19:08

How about ... "fraud in a bi-plane" .. it's got a nice ring to it :O

Mike Flynn 4th Sep 2016 06:12

Barry Tempest's comment on her facebook page has been removed.
However here it is again.

"Your claimed exploits have put the cause of Women in Aviation back 40 years. If you accept the HCAP award in the autumn you should be ashamed."



More to the point Barry perhaps the HCAP should be ashamed?

When a man of of his stature makes such a statement it deserves being highlighted.
Barry is of course a highly qualified and much respected British pilot.

Is a Member of the Royal Aeronautical Society and the Historic Aircraft Association along with the British Aerobatic Association.
Has over 13,000 hours of flying experience in some 350 types and variants of light aircraft including over 8,000 hours instructing.
Started display flying in 1958 and has over 2,300 public airshow performances in the UK and many other countries including France, Germany and the USA.
Was a founder member of the Barnstormers Flying Circus in 1963 and, in 1971, flew with the famed Rothmans Aerobatic Team in Stampe biplanes.
Has won numerous aerobatic competitions and display awards in the UK.
His career in aviation included the role of Chief Flying Instructor at a number of UK Flying Schools, training commercial pilots and flying instructors, air taxi work throughout Europe plus ferrying aircraft to the Middle East. From 1984 to 1997, as a Flight Standards Officer in the UK Civil Aviation Authority, his responsibilities included the regulation and oversight of all civil Air Displays in the UK.
Was a Flying Instructor Examiner for some 28 years and is a CAA appointed Display Authorisation Evaluator covering a wide range of aircraft.
A man who deserves to cite his occupation as pilot but is too modest to have a wiki page.

maxred posted

She is a qualified Commercial Pilot, and Qualified Instructor.
She does not fly professionally, bur for the love of it-a hobby.
She flew at tree top height, dodging power lines, in Romania, due to weather.
She flew through Israel, at 15 feet, in formation with another Stearman.
Of course all the above is total fiction.

She claims she is a "qualified commercial pilot and qualified instructor" but the truth is those qualifications are based on a New Zealand licence.Her ratings there are long expired around the year 2000. In any case she did little or no flying instruction.

Could you tell us more about your work as an instructor?

Working as an instructor was something of an anticlimax actually. I find I prefer teaching the ground theory (I specialise in meteorology) but the actual hands on flying is a bit frustrating and irritating. Honestly I don’t really have the temperament to teach people well so I just ended up doing that on a part time basis to keep my hand in – I didn’t really enjoy it.
source https://limitlesspursuits.com/advent...-to-australia/


She does not fly professionally but for the love of it and a hobby?
forgetting to mention the main reason is she cannot as she only has a ppl. However that does not stop claims like wiki entry where her occupation is listed as 'pilot and flying instructor'.

Apart from her two sponsored flights I can find no occupation for TCT in the UK over the last fifteen years.

The low level and bad weather stories seem to get more embellished as time goes on. I fear for those Aussie pilots in Darwin who fly every day over what she claims are the "crocodile infested swamps."

The picture she painted of Australia is not one I recognise from my flying there.
The video in this ITV interview is pure fiction.
British pilot Tracey Curtis Taylor days away from completing 13,000 mile solo flight - ITV News

She is attempting to recreate legendary pilot Amy Johnson's pioneering 13,000 mile solo flight across the globe from England and is expected to land in Sydney over the weekend, after making landfall Down Under on earlier this week.

Speaking to ITV News, Curtis-Taylor said that she is flying twice as far each leg across Australia to make up time lost due to bad weather but she is "relieved beyond words" to finally be Down Under.

Flying for up to eight hours a day on her final leg, she said she was having to stop to regularly refuel - relying on help from aboriginal villages.
In the video she also claimed that she had to travel to local farms to round up jerry cans of avgas. :D:D
However the Australian leg of her and Ewalds flight the flight was Darwin, Tennant Creek, Uluru, Woomera, Griffith, RAAF Richmond, and finally to Sydney International Airport.

megan 4th Sep 2016 07:02


Barry Tempest's comment on her facebook page has been removed
So it has, but someone else has posted an interesting post, see how long that lasts. Got a thumbs down from a Pete Giles, whoever he is, but a question has been asked of him, wonder if a reply is forthcoming.

Mike Flynn 4th Sep 2016 07:17

Here is the removed post from the Bird in a Biplane site.

Brian Abraham You certainly win the prize for getting away thus far with the greatest hoax played on a gullible public in modern times. The greatest con job ever. Solo? Pull the other one. Circumnavigation? Well if you count crossing the major watery bits seated in airline first class. You do fly first class I presume, and not with the plebs in business, or heaven forbid, economy.
Like · Reply · 3 · Yesterday at 10:53am
Pete Giles
Pete Giles ?????
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 12:49pm · Edited
Brian Abraham
Brian Abraham So what part is incorrect Pete?

wiggy 4th Sep 2016 08:30

I wish Jay and others good luck with this.

I see TCT's sponsors were able to get their brand name displayed in the UK national press by minor royals (yet again), as witnessed by the images here:

Zara Phillips dodges the rain to judge the best picnic at Burghley Horse Trials | Daily Mail Online

There's one heck of a PR machine to break down ...I do wonder if so much effort has been invested in this "operation" that from the sponsors POV they see it as something that is now too big to fail.


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