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canopener 20th Oct 2018 04:49


Originally Posted by megan (Post 10287517)
Given the in-exactitude of TC-T's use of the English language the question remains, was she legally a co-pilot?

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/real-economy-report-2013-03-20/rep_id:4433

It doesn't really matter does it because it was "a practice run for MY solo flight across Africa" and there was a PIC.......did I hear that correctly?Another example of the media misquoting her.....no if I heard it correctly she said SOLO a couple of times.

Above The Clouds 20th Oct 2018 09:25


Originally Posted by Hadley Rille (Post 10287512)
Tracey was the Execujet second co-pilot on the AN2.
http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/real-economy-report-2013-03-20/rep_id:4433

In the video the AN2 flight was a practice run for her solo flight from Cape to Cambridge

So there you have it directly from the mouth of the 'Bird In A Biplane' Tracy Curtis-Taylor, no slip of the tongue, no reporters misunderstanding what she said, she was quoting "My Solo Flight Across Africa" even before the Africa flight took place in Ewalds Stearman.

"My Solo Flight Across Africa" how much clearer could it be.

Lies and deception from day one.




edit spelling.

pilotmike 20th Oct 2018 13:03

Great name, 'canopener'!!!!

I wonder what cans could be opened, and why that specific name was selected......?

How intriguing to imagine a can of worms might be opened...

Or even what might happen if the person who probably has the most beans to spill were to open a can of beans?

One person is probably really worried that their time is clearly up, and that a canopener is a dangerous thing to provoke if you happen to be 'that can'.

Clare Prop 20th Oct 2018 14:27

Seems even our CASA don't know their own definition of solo.

https://www.flightsafetyaustralia.co...-solo-success/

Mike Flynn 20th Oct 2018 14:46

CASA were perhaps misled by all the press handouts from Boeing?


A female aviation-adventurer has flown a 1942 biplane from the United Kingdom to Australia to help inspire the next generation of pilots.

Tracey Curtis-Taylor landed her Boeing Stearman, the Spirit of Artemis, in Sydney on Saturday after flying nearly 21,000 kilometres through 23 countries.

Aircraft manufacturer Boeing sponsored the endeavour as part of its centennial celebrations, with the route modelled on Amy Johnson’s 1930 flight from Britain to Australia—lauded as one of the greatest solo flight achievements in history.

https://www.facebook.com/CivilAviati...48773835315643



‘(I’ve) always been inspired by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson,’ said Curtis-Taylor upon landing in Sydney. ‘This expedition from the UK to Australia was the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world, following in their footsteps whilst hoping to inspire the next generation to follow their dreams.’

A Boeing spokesperson said that the flight is ‘a wonderful reminder of how far aviation has advanced and the role women have played since those early days of flight.’

In this case not much further than Amelia Earhart who had Fred Noonan up front doing the navigation.

Clare Prop 20th Oct 2018 15:02

Here is the video with that famous slide. There is another slide 42 minutes in that makes reference to "solo"

airpolice 20th Oct 2018 16:21

"This is something like the culmination of a thirty year flying career."

How many hours has she got?

Mike Flynn 20th Oct 2018 21:15

In August 2015 when she destroyed the Robinson at Goodwood she had the following hours according the the AAIB.


1,430 hours (of which at least 350 were on type) Last 90 days - 16 hours
Last 28 days - 9 hours
https://assets.publishing.service.go...6200_12-15.pdf

Mike Flynn 21st Oct 2018 06:12

Tracey is in the UK newspapers today.


'Bird in a biplane' blames 'old boy vendetta' for solo flight row after being stripped of an award amid lying claims
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...light-row.html

I am sure this description of the LAA will raise a few hackles at todays Sywell AGM.


Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club.
The solo claims are once again denied.


Ms Curtis-Taylor admits that in a 'slip of the tongue' during one interview, she inadvertently used the term 'solo' to describe the trip.'I was doing everything to promote the female pioneers who did fly solo, but I never claimed to be doing the same. I was, however, the only pilot. No one flew but me.'’
It appears the Light Aviation Association is riddled with jealous ageing misogynists.



I've often felt like an outsider because it has been made clear that some resented seeing a woman doing something that they don't do.

Cows getting bigger 21st Oct 2018 06:21

.... and what its wrong with being ex-military, Hon Lt Cdr Curtis-Taylor RNR?

Have a lovely day. I wish I was there but I'm busy flying, over the Omani desert with quite a few current UK military men and women. :)

7120 21st Oct 2018 09:30

"I've often felt like an outsider because it has been made clear that some resented seeing a woman doing something that they don't do."

"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."


Say what you like but she's streets ahead of the LAA and flying community for PR. When she loses the vote these are the only images the public will remember!

Above The Clouds 21st Oct 2018 09:39


Ms Curtis-Taylor admits that in a 'slip of the tongue' during one interview, she inadvertently used the term 'solo' to describe the trip.'I was doing everything to promote the female pioneers who did fly solo, but I never claimed to be doing the same. I was, however, the only pilot. No one flew but me.'’
She must have a twin sister in the videos stating "Solo" or that tongue of hers is as long and slippery as a lizards tongue.


Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club.
And yet Ms Curtis-Taylor is happy to tell everyone in her speeches that she was trained by military pilots !
'Cows getting bigger' likewise, unfortunately I also cannot attend today as I have a job to do, thats busy flying in Russia with some ex military pilots who are a great bunch, they are intrigued to know the results of the AGM especially after her "Solo" claims during the video of the Russian AN2 earlier. :)

Just an other number 21st Oct 2018 10:49

Quote
"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."

That percentage is probably not true. What is true is that Tracey herself is 56 according to Companies House. Only 4 years till she becomes an old girl.

airpolice 21st Oct 2018 10:57

I wonder if anyone at the LAA has a few minutes to extract the age profile from the membership database and show us the truth.

Above The Clouds 21st Oct 2018 11:09


Originally Posted by airpolice (Post 10288403)
I wonder if anyone at the LAA has a few minutes to extract the age profile from the membership database and show us the truth.

Posted by Steve Slater on the LAA website Oct 8th 2018.


SteveSlater
I'm not going to enter the debate about the award, or the motions, but I do think its important that I answer Derek's incorrect facts above.

LAA membership at the September 2016 AGM: 7,643. Membership at 1st September 2018: 7,746.

Average age of member according to our last Member Survey (March 2016), 59.5 years. Previous survey (2011): 58.6 years.

Not a perfect figure I agree, but not the cataclysmic situation suggested.

Steve

airpolice 21st Oct 2018 11:16

I don't think that the average tells us enough of the story. She said "80 to 90 per cent" so we could use a good breakdown of ages, and gender.

Hadley Rille 21st Oct 2018 11:17


Originally Posted by 7120 (Post 10288334)
"I've often felt like an outsider because it has been made clear that some resented seeing a woman doing something that they don't do."

"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."


Say what you like but she's streets ahead of the LAA and flying community for PR. When she loses the vote these are the only images the public will remember!

What a grubby tactic to use, inventing misonyny in aviation when ironically it's one field where merit is the key factor and women are treated equally, welcomed and given every encouragement and opportunity.

"because it has been made clear that some resented"
is of course suitably vague and untestable.

ChampChump 21st Oct 2018 11:18

IIRC, the average age was 59, but that was a year or three ago & it might have applied to another GA subset. Most of us are indeed clocking up the years, but I don't see it as particularly relevant all the while we are encouraging youngsters in whichever ways we do. I don't like the way the LAA is being portrayed as exclusively male, nor do I enjoy T C-T portraying herself so publicly as some sort of a downtrodden, female pilot that by default represents the rest of us. She doesn't and we aren't.


ETA - slow to type that, so other posts got there first with the figures.

Above The Clouds 21st Oct 2018 11:18


Originally Posted by airpolice (Post 10288412)
I don't think that the average tells us enough of the story. She said "80 to 90 per cent" so we could use a good breakdown of ages, and gender.

Sorry I don't have time for that, I am busy flying in Russia with ex-military pilots today ;)

airpolice 21st Oct 2018 11:20


Originally Posted by Above The Clouds (Post 10288417)
Sorry I don't have time for that, I am busy flying in Russia with ex-military pilots today ;)

I am hoping that the LAA can make time for it, and establish if this is true or just another Lie / Slip of the tongue.


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