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runway30 9th Oct 2018 11:27

“With regards to the 'solo' issue: it was clear from the beginning that parts of the flight would be solo and others not. Rutherford implies that I was always flying with Ewald Gritsch which is also not true. In the formation flight through the Rift Valley and over the flamingos which featured in The Aviatrix documentary, I had Caroline O'Donnell from Artemis Investments as my passenger. Annette Porter flew several legs over 1200 miles with me; I also flew with other people for the purpose of the film story. All of these flights were filmed. Significantly, I was also going to take Rutherford on a leg with me at his request but when the flight planning problems surfaced in Cape Town - no proper maps, no charts, no VTC's, no VFR procedures, no AIP - which was part of Rutherford's logistical remit, I changed my mind.”

Also in her own words from an LAA forum she talks about carrying passengers.

Hadley Rille 9th Oct 2018 14:39

For information here's the pitch for the film. Doesn't mention solo.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160505...Graphic-Design

HolyMoley 9th Oct 2018 15:01


Originally Posted by Hadley Rille (Post 10269642)
For information here's the pitch for the film. Doesn't mention solo.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160505...Graphic-Design

Does mention “only female member of the Shuttleworth Collection” and “visiting CAMFED schools”. I’ve missed out on the photos of the promising student from one of these schools flying in the Stearman.

pulse1 9th Oct 2018 15:14

"She is an experienced stunt pilot.."

A stunt is something interesting that is done in order to attract attention and get publicity for the person or company responsible for it. In a bold promotional stunt for the movie, he smashed his car into a passing truck. 2. countable noun. (Collins Dictionary) Now its all beginning to make sense!

strake 9th Oct 2018 15:24


Originally Posted by Hadley Rille (Post 10269642)
For information here's the pitch for the film. Doesn't mention solo.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160505...Graphic-Design


That is the 2016 version. This is a copy of her webpage taken a year earlier...paragraph 4 refers....

https://web.archive.org/web/20150323...80/operations/

This is taken from her website in February 2015
https://web.archive.org/web/20150204....com/speaking/

India Four Two 9th Oct 2018 18:18

The links work for me. Here’s a quote from the Feb 2015 BiaB link, with that pesky four-letter “S” word again:


Tracey is an amazing storyteller…and will spellbind any audience.

Her solo open-cockpit biplane flight from Cape Town to Goodwood was the realisation of something beyond a dream. It encompassed great adventure and daring in some of the most spectacularly beautiful and dangerous parts of the world today.

Cows getting bigger 9th Oct 2018 18:32

Beardy bloke in red trousers holding a glass of Sauvignon Blanc looks familiar. :hmm:

Fitter2 9th Oct 2018 18:32

Likewise, her 2016 Website includes another 'slip of the tongue'. Funny how it's always the same one.


The Cape Town to Goodwood flight took two months to complete with 38 stops. Tracey was supported by a second aircraft; a Cessna Caravan provided by Phoenix Aviation of Nairobi, which carried a logistics manager, an engineer and a four-man film crew.

In preparation for her solo flight across Africa, Tracey was invited to join a 3 man Russian crew ferry flying an old piston engined Antonov 2 biplane from Kiev to Cape Town. The aeroplane was donated by Utair for humanitarian work in South Africa and supported by ExecuJet.

Midlifec 9th Oct 2018 18:37


Originally Posted by Fitter2 (Post 10269797)
Likewise, her 2016 Website includes another 'slip of the tongue'. Funny how it's always the same one.

The same slip all over the BBC news archive too, just search ‘Tracey Curtis Taylor’,how I wonder did they all get it so wrong..............

piperboy84 9th Oct 2018 19:01


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10269785)
The links work for me. Here’s a quote from the Feb 2015 BiaB link, with that pesky four-letter “S” word again:


Tracey needs to give that Aussie web site guy that took responsibilty for inadvertantly inserting the "S" word into her web pages a right good kicking for all the trouble he's caused her, not only did he put that dreaded word on her home page, marketing fluff, presentation slides and speaking engagement site, it looks like the bugger hacked into Boeing and done it there also. I wouldnt be paying his invoice if I were her.

kirkbymoorside 9th Oct 2018 19:12


Originally Posted by Midlifec (Post 10269799)

The same slip all over the BBC news archive too, just search ‘Tracey Curtis Taylor’,how I wonder did they all get it so wrong..............

And another "Solo slip" this time in a message from Tracey in Nairobi posted by the Cape Town to Goodwood Facebook page on 20/11/13:


My complete silence since departing Cape Town might have raised a few eyebrows given my more expansive outpourings on the Ocean to Ocean blog when I flew with the Russian crew from Kiev to Cape Town earlier this year in an Antonov 2. I can only say that the physical and psychological demands are so much greater with a solo flight of this nature, added to which there is a huge filming programme running in parallel, that it is as much as I can do to deal with the day to day operations.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...&__tn__=%2C%3B

Jonzarno 9th Oct 2018 19:13

From the archived BiaB web page:


Her solo open-cockpit biplane flight from Cape Town to Goodwood was the realisation of
something beyond a dream.
Something beyond a dream? Yes, that sounds quite accurate...... :O

Pilot DAR 9th Oct 2018 19:30

Not much in today's posts here is really new. Let's not rehash the already posted information, it's too much to review for little value added. Please, before you post something on this thread, ask yourself, is it really new? If it can be found here already, it's not new. If the continuation of this thread cannot be for new, non LAA AGM information, it won't be serving much purpose.

Jonzarno 9th Oct 2018 20:43

Pilot DAR is right: for those wanting to expose the reality of what happened, a simple focus on the facts is all that is needed; everything else just provides those with a guilty conscience more cover to hide behind.

# 3 Questions

airpolice 9th Oct 2018 21:12

Perhaps this topic might be better served by a dedicated website, rather than repetition on here. Facts could be laid out, once each, for all to see.

This being an aviation related forum, maybe we should take a poll of how many people here think that rule breaking and telling lies about flying, as made glamorous by T C-T and therefore endorsed (big time) by the LAA and HCAP as well as by Prince Michael of Kent, is really acceptable.

strake 10th Oct 2018 11:40

The waybackmachine never lies....

I don't think this has been seen before and presumably, our Trace can't blame the web designer for this one as she is responding personally to posts. From August 2015:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150819...birdinabiplane

Union Jack 10th Oct 2018 18:12

More grist for the mill which, so far as I am aware, has not been posted before...... https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/20...ear-old-plane/ which is entitled:

Meet the woman who is undertaking to fly solo across the US in this 74-year-old plane

and starts:

"Pilot Tracey Curtis-Taylor embarked yesterday on flying the 4,700 nautical mile historic US airmail route from Seattle to Boston, marking the third leg of her solo journey circumnavigating the world since 2013."

and intriguingly continues:

"It’s not for the faint-hearted, as Tracey is exposed to the elements, controls the airplane by stick-and-rudder flying, and orients herself with the help of a compass."

So glad about the compass, although it clearly cannot have been that reliable in view of the considerable amount of, ahem, "deviation" around Winslow AZ.....

Jack

Chuck Glider 10th Oct 2018 20:25

Nor is it accurate in referring to a circumnavigation for was the Stearman not crated and transported from continent to continent? In fairness that may have been the journalist getting a little over excited rather than our heroine telling fibs.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 10th Oct 2018 20:43


Originally Posted by Chuck Glider (Post 10270664)
Nor is it accurate in referring to a circumnavigation for was the Stearman not crated and transported from continent to continent? In fairness that may have been the journalist getting a little over excited rather than our heroine telling fibs.

You are being generous there Chuck.
Where journalistic over-enthusiasm has been suspected, and subsequently questioned with that journalist, the answer is invariably "it is as was stated and is a direct quote / taken from a quote".

TCT has often referred to "flying around the world".

Cows getting bigger 10th Oct 2018 21:14

Let's be fair here, TCT is not the first individual who has had their achievements 'adjusted' by ignorant media. The tangible point should be that she has done little to correct reported inaccuracies.


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