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piperboy84 16th Jun 2016 09:17


You may notice that it shows that Ewald Gritsch is NOT a certified flight instructor in this aircraft, or indeed have any relevant professional flight crew rating related to this aircraft... (except perhaps in Austria and maybe some other countries).

Sorry could not resist! Carry on...
You reckon when TCT was flying along and ran into a situation where she needed to ask Ewald a question, he would respond "Sorry dear your on your own until we cross the Austrian border then I can give you all the instruction you want, till then I,m just a plain old PPL. Now careful with my bloody plane please"

" Piperboy it's quite extraordinary how you lot can come out with such allegations as though they were proven statements of fact."

Scamming a couple of mil out of those Wall Streety, hedge funder assholes to finance your dream flying holiday is admirable and I salute her for that, but turning around and kidding on to John Q. Public that you displayed the skills, fortitude and guts of Capt Bligh on the trip is a bridge too far for me.

Genghis the Engineer 16th Jun 2016 09:38

I'm willing to believe the last sentence anyhow.

G

airpolice 16th Jun 2016 09:40

Step Turn wrote:


Quote:
a good education isn't a prerequisite for knowing right from wrong.
Exactly.

TCT has stepped into the realm of general aviation, where we [pilots] reside with pride. We conduct ourselves with honour, log our piloting time accurately, and do not take undeserved credit.

From what I read here, TCT has done things which dishonour pilots in general, but worse, appears (again, only based upon what I read here) to be trying to "navigate" and bend her conduct, and recent history in an attempt to defend, justify, and perpetuate it. That's the most of what I find dishonourable.

A previous poster mentioned a possible break in the path of compliance when they mentioned that TCT may not have held a valid FAA license, which is required for flying an N registered plane. Perhaps that rabbit hole is worth a look - who was the legal PIC for that flying? Gosh, if it turned out (me speculating) that the legal PIC was Mr. Gritsch, because TCT did not hold an FAA license, that would be very telling!

To quote post #349

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I take it this is referring to TCT and if so, I presume she holds at least an FAA Private Pilot Certificate to operate as PIC of an 'N' registered aircraft (In particular the flying conducted in the US most recently)? An Airman Inquiry through the FAA reveals nothing.
Just to be thorough, I did the FAA search myself:

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Required * Last Name: First Name: (may be partial or may include middle name) Date of Birth:
Day: Year: (i.e. 1974) City: State:
- OR - Country:






Search Results
Display Preference: HorizontalVertical

No records found based on search criteria provided above
Edit: Though the quote above does not show the name I typed in, I did type it in correctly spelled.

Again, that's my speculation, based upon what I read here, and the FAA search I have quoted. If my speculation turns out to be wrong, I will certainly withdraw it. Perhaps she is FAA licensed under a different name. Then, I would wonder why....

To "check the system" I searched myself as an FAA pilot the same way, and I am listed, so I know the search works the way I used it.
Last edited by Step Turn; 15th Jun 2016 at 18:32.
This, I believe, is a great example of the kind of speculation that Flying Lawyer counsels us against.

Stating the facts is one thing, but asserting wrongdoing, and claiming "evidence" of such, when you are wrong, is not helping anyone.

Let's get back to stoning her for the "crimes" that she really has committed, instead of inventing others.

9 lives 16th Jun 2016 10:39


Stating the facts is one thing, but asserting wrongdoing, and claiming "evidence" of such, when you are wrong, is not helping anyone.
Yes. My effort to substantiate speculation was inadequate, and resulted in my making an unfair statement. Happily my error was easily revealed with the effort of others, and the record set straight. I was wrong.

Jetblu 16th Jun 2016 10:42

I do not see how having, or not having, a FAA licence changes the deceit or scammed awards. Am I missing something?

If the FAA licensing issue was to prove anything, beyond all reasonable doubt, it now proves that they were in this 'scheme' together [dual], does it not.

Marchettiman 16th Jun 2016 11:42

Just to put the record straight on Ewald Gritsch's licence, when any of us obtains an FAA "piggy back" licence under 61.75 it is only issued as a private pilot certificate whether or not your national licence is an ATP, CPL or PPL. But you have to maintain the validity of your national licence, otherwise the FAA certificate is invalid. Mr Gritsch has an Austrian issued EASA Air Transport Pilot licence ( see my previous post with his Austrian licence number included with its AT.FCL prefix) so he can be properly described as a highly experienced Airline Pilot who accompanied Ms Curtis-Taylor in the Stearman on the entire trip(s). He might well have had a camera with him, and a set of spanners but once airborne I am sure the relatively inexperienced TCT would have relied on his experience and piloting skills when the going got tough. That's why so many of us have lost respect for TCT amid her varying claims of "flying solo", "alone in a cockpit", and all the other adjectival variations on the same theme.

abgd 16th Jun 2016 12:14


If the FAA licensing issue was to prove anything, beyond all reasonable doubt, it now proves that they were in this 'scheme' together [dual], does it not.
Not necessarily - I can see an argument for having additional pilots licensed to fly the aircraft, present on a long trip. There are any number of scenarios you can imagine - e.g. TCT gets D&V and the aircraft needs to be moved in a hurry - where a second pilot could be useful.

I'm well aware some of the other pilots mentioned in the list will not have had such a luxury, but if you're committed to a flying circus it seems reasonable insurance to me.

Cows getting bigger 16th Jun 2016 12:21


Originally Posted by Marchettiman
Mr Gritsch has an Austrian issued EASA Air Transport Pilot licence ( see my previous post with his Austrian licence number included with its AT.FCL prefix) so he can be properly described as a highly experienced Airline Pilot who accompanied Ms Curtis-Taylor in the Stearman on the entire trip(s).

Nonsense. AT.FCL..... means that the State of issue is Austria and the licence is in accordance with EASA Part FCL. The data you have retrieved from the FAA in no way implies that the holder has an ATPL. :=

Parson 16th Jun 2016 13:19

Isn't the issue here the inability of our press to properly scrutinize the claims being made?

Having said that, I am not really surprised given the level of knowledge of the so called 'experts' that the Beeb routinely drags up.

Jetblu 16th Jun 2016 13:42

If we are now playing the 'Due Diligence' card, that surely lies across the board to the people that gave her the award in the first place.

I suspect 'gross negligence' from the top, through all the tiers down in domino effect.

flybymike 16th Jun 2016 13:45


Having said that, I am not really surprised given the level of knowledge of the so called 'experts' that the Beeb routinely drags up.
No worse than the so called experts on here with unsubstantiated allegations subsequently found to be incorrect.

Jetblu 16th Jun 2016 13:50

flybymike

Whilst step turn may have got something wrong here, [which has since been amended] I do not see him calling himself an expert, running off to the press with fictitious and misleading allegations or attempting to collect any award by deceit.

That is correct, isn't it.

flybymike 16th Jun 2016 14:17

I'm not referring solely ( if I may use that word) to step turn.

We also have assumptions about licensing qualifications, apparent statements about the purpose and motivation of the flight, methods of navigation, who was flying and when they were doing it, and innumerable assumptions which can be no more than conjecture presented as fact.

Katamarino 16th Jun 2016 14:24


methods of navigation, who was flying and when they were doing it
Actually, most of that comes from first hand accounts by the support team.

flybymike 16th Jun 2016 15:13


Quote:
methods of navigation, who was flying and when they were doing it.


Actually, most of that comes from first hand accounts by the support team.

Genuine question. Have the support team posted that on this thread, or is the information available elsewhere?

Jetblu 16th Jun 2016 15:13

In answer to your last genuine question, Sam Rutherford posted earlier on.

Danny42C 16th Jun 2016 15:40

Planemike (your #373),

Caught beginning of it. Didn't the lady say that after they got off in Arizona: "300 rpm dropped off" (or words to that effect ?)

That is exactly the result you would expect if someone (?) pulled a two-speed prop back to "Coarse" while flying slowly. The Vultee BT-13 did the same.

Just an idea.

Danny42C.

Jetblu 16th Jun 2016 17:12

DaveW

[We may as well resume our conversation here. The kids at our other network provider are seemingly having a glitch]



Originally Posted by Dave W
I am making such a meal of this, perhaps Cole's Law would be most appropriate.

Corrected that for you. :wink:

I don't mind going through all the laws with you. I suspect we will end up with the Theft Act 1968 when we get back on thread.

Stanwell 16th Jun 2016 23:34

JS,
Re Abraham Lincoln's maxim...
That may be so - but, if your scheme is well thought out, you can scam enough of them for as long as it takes to achieve your goal.

Genghis the Engineer 17th Jun 2016 04:26


Ian might like to appease his sycophants on the Flyer forum but I was never prepared to go down that road.
Frankly, I think that Ian displayed massive patience towards your vendetta against TCT.

As I've said numerous times before, that you are right, does not excuse your tedious obsession with repeating the same thing over and over.

Lying about Ian having banned you from Flyer, when all he did was block you from repetitive posts, insisting that any new posts contain new information, didn't help your cause at-all.

G


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