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SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 31st Oct 2016 13:12

I have the two key SOLO references from the Herne Bay day edited into one 15second clip. (2mb)

I cannot upload to here as MP4 is not permitted but can send via e-mail if you contact me via Private Message.
:ok:

hoodie 31st Oct 2016 13:21

Suggest you put it on YouTube or Vimeo, then anybody can link to it easily.

piperboy84 31st Oct 2016 14:02

Hey Sam , here's a link to TCT's Pilotweb interview about the quality of her crew

"How did you prepare for the journey?



It took another four years to pull all the elements together for the flight. This variously included sourcing a suitable aeroplane, raising serious sponsorship money and finding a film company to document the story. I had a very good project manager and a huge number of friends supporting me although I think they had private doubts about whether it would actually happen. With regards to the actual expedition, I had a support aircraft (a Cessna Caravan) and for the most part a fantastic team which included the chase pilot,[/B][/B] a logistics manager, an engineer and a four-man film crew."

G-KEST 31st Oct 2016 14:22

Much amused by the comment from Saga Noren - "the disgusting women-fearing bully that is Barry Tempest." Disgusting...?? that is for others to decide but I think not. Women fearing...?? not at all, thoughout my 51 years of married life. Bully...?? never an attribute of mine (though I am fond of corned beef). Were I of a litigious nature I might just feel inclined to sue Saga Noren.
Cheers,
Barry Tempest
_________________________

Reading a bit further I noted a post from Allan Friswell
Allan Friswell "I hope you bankrupt that small-minded spoilt brat that is Rutherford. I hope too that something VERY unpleasant happens to Barry Tempest, the LAA's Resident Misogynist, a man so afraid of women, let alone successful women he wets his pants when he meets one. Tracy - you're a star. xx"
Now Allan I hope your wish is reciprocated. I am not and have never been a misogynist, or afraid of women (except when they are extremely annoyed) and incontinence has yet to affect me.

rog747 31st Oct 2016 14:27


Originally Posted by Jonzarno (Post 9562294)
Sorry to keep harping on about this. I'm afraid I don't do Facebook so can't do this myself; but could someone take the three questions I asked earlier and put them on her page?

Either she will have the courage to answer them, or they will "disappear".

If she answers them directly and honestly, that should help clear things up; if they disappear, that is in itself an clear answer.

It seems to me that 90% of the controversy is covered by those questions and her reaction to them should make the situation clear to everyone, critics and supporters alike.


apart from her press release on 24 Oct posted on her FB page about her consternation of these issues she does not reply to any of the FB comments to this of which there are over 50 - many of which seem sycophantic but there are recent increasingly pressing negative responses against her which I am amused and amazed at have not been replied to or deleted


https://www.facebook.com/birdinabiplane/?fref=ts

Sam Rutherford 31st Oct 2016 14:32

Given the very similar language and layout, I think we can safely assume that Saga Noren is actually Allan Friswell - this from his FB post:


Allan Friswell

I hope you bankrupt that small-minded spoilt brat that is Rutherford. I hope too that something VERY unpleasant happens to Barry Tempest, the LAA's Resident Misogynist, a man so afraid of women, let alone successful women he wets his pants when he meets one. Tracy - you're a star. xx

rog747 31st Oct 2016 14:34


Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford (Post 9562397)
Given the very similar language and layout, I think we can safely assume that Saga Noren is actually Allan Friswell - this from his FB post:


Allan Friswell

I hope you bankrupt that small-minded spoilt brat that is Rutherford. I hope too that something VERY unpleasant happens to Barry Tempest, the LAA's Resident Misogynist, a man so afraid of women, let alone successful women he wets his pants when he meets one. Tracy - you're a star. xx

yes Sam i thought that too - is he a known LAA member? he does not much like B.T does he!

he has replied negatively to various posts on her FBook with some more rantings

deefer dog 31st Oct 2016 14:37

Anyone recall this fighting talk as Johnathan Aitken unleashed his vicious counter attack on the Guardian newspaper who had dared to accuse him of lying?


'If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight.'
It was followed in pretty short order by his imprisonment, bankruptcy and complete humiliation. What's notable here is that he sued the Guardian when all they had done was expose him as a liar.

Haraka 31st Oct 2016 14:40

That which is indefensible (e.g. "RAF" Wings & "Solo" proven statements) is being ignored.

Instead we are now, as predicted, getting increasingly wilder counter accusations being flung about, whilst frantically back pedalling and trying to divert the argument into, for example, an emotive "Wimmin' " issue. All of this in an attempt to gain the sympathy of those unfamiliar with the "actualité " .
It's a familiar path which generally leads to a greater denouement. We shall see.

Mike Flynn 31st Oct 2016 14:48

In last Saturdays Times she accused the various newspapers,magazines and tv reporters as "misreporting" her solo claims.


She admits she could have done more to correct misleading reports that made liberal use of the phrase “flying solo”.

“I wish we’d sorted that misreporting out but I can’t do everything all of the time,” she said.
Everywhere you look on the internet Tracy it is you that claimed you were flying solo.

That is what the press reported and you are now trying to retract.

I wonder if the Royal Navy are aware of the fact that you never flew these expeditions alone?

clareprop 31st Oct 2016 15:11

Jay,

I'm told the editors of all newspapers, including The Times, have been sent a copy of the video where she says she flew solo.

The Old Fat One 31st Oct 2016 15:17


I wonder if the Royal Navy are aware of the fact that you never flew these expeditions alone?
The Royal Navy will be aware of her connections and waiting to see which way the wind blows. I expect they will be hoping for a discreet and quiet "disconnect".

If and when one of the broadsheets decides to run with this in a full on expose, that process might well speed up.


I'm told the editors of all newspapers, including The Times, have been sent a copy of the video where she says she flew solo.
I'm wondering if one of the "beebs" natural competitors see any mileage in running this (Channel 4??).

I would suggest nobody reacts to her sycophantic trolls on here or anywhere else. They have no idea what she represents and no idea the damage she is doing to the industry. Why would they? I also think it is wrong to criticise her PR manager. So far he is doing a splendid job, even though we don't like the job he is doing. One thing is certain; he will for sure read be reading this thread...so with my business consultant hat on...here's a freebie for you, dear chap.

"Make sure you a getting paid up front mate and sorry about all the unpaid overtime you're having to put in".

Stanwell 31st Oct 2016 17:20

Sponsors, facilitators and patrons...
I'm sure that they've all been working pretty hard preparing their "Plausible Deniability" statements.

Tim Kelly, however, as TOFO has noted above, will be putting in all those extra hours because he'd somewhere heard that famous phrase:
"If I go down, I'm taking you with me!"

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 31st Oct 2016 17:36

I think Tim Kelly is well and truly in the firing line. His role as the PR leader would have meant it was he who prepared any press-releases or press-packs. Also on the BIAB page the media are directed to his e-mail address. Whatever he has produced in the past must have been signed-off by the BIAP team, and as Team Leader, that falls upon TCT herself. They are both culpable.

In preparing any media packs I wonder how the conversation between them went. Was it a case of TK mentioning SOLO and her ladyship agreeing with it, or TK not mentioning this crucial aspect and her telling him to use the word SOLO. Either way smacks of a deliberate attempt to embellish the truth to achieve a wider audience and get unjustified acclaim. Well TK and TCT, I don't think you realise just how wide an audience you are about to reach - and the news that is going to be published isn't going to be sweet and supportive of you. I think it is time to drop the aviatrix title and revert to being the plain and simple Ms Curtis-Taylor (PPL). As for TK Media, how did you get it sooooo wrong, did you really think that the truth would not come out?

Just sayin' :E

tmmorris 31st Oct 2016 17:53

G-KEST it seems to me you are suffering from 'damage and distress'' a phrase TCT was keen to use

Claiming Compensation Under Data Protection Act

Chris Martyr 31st Oct 2016 21:44

Evening PPruNers,
Thus far , I have only been an observer on here, but seeing as the Proposer of the dreaded LAA motion [Hi Barry] seems to be have got himself a few 'bullet wounds' , then I may as well take a few myself.
As seconder , I must just emphasise that I don't really think that we should be responding to Guardian readers [or any other readers] on-line comments to this matter. We are a bit above that !
The recent developments have just about shut down anything that Tracey has said in the last 2 years .
The rest of this has to be aimed at the people who seem to persist in perpetuating this caviar and champagne fuelled junket, dressed up as a global circumnavigation attempt and will not accept that it's over !
I'm not interested in exterminating individuals , but cannot accept that the people further up the food chain cannot see that the oxygen supply on this is gradually turning into 100% nitrogen ! Very dangerous .
Jay-Sata , yourself and Sam have done a brilliant job in exposing these pretenders.
They have no place in aviation !

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 31st Oct 2016 23:04

Hi Chris, thank you. There are many that commend what you both have done onn that side, equally Jay and Sam on here. The LAA were right to give the award based upon what was known at the time, they were right to rescind it once the truth was out. And to the doubters that were at the AGM... just show them the clear denials from TCT and then show the video clips from Herne Bay 2014.:ok:

G-KEST 1st Nov 2016 00:28

Wrong Mr Morris. Just responding to some hilarious accusations. I recall that saying - "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me". The saga continues...........!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
Barry

Mike Flynn 1st Nov 2016 05:06

You must have been called a few names in your examining days Barry:ok:

Sam and myself may have played an initial role but credit must go to the many excellent people who have devoted time on often very detailed posts.

Pprune is sometimes described as a place where arguments develop but it is a credit to you all so little moderation has been needed.

I sincerely hope the day will come when a woman genuinly commemorates the historic flights of Mary Heath and Amy Johnson and attempts to recreate them in a realistic timeframe.

Britain's only Tiger Moth commercial pilot, Amanda Harrison ,has expressed a desire to attempt the UK to Sydney trip. I am sure she will have plenty of support if her plans are revived.

Jonzaro has raised some interesting questions.

I feel it is about time the press gave some of her critics the space to put forward the truth and explain why we object to TCT's claims.

B70 1st Nov 2016 07:52

CM

"....but cannot accept that the people further up the food chain cannot see that the oxygen supply on this is gradually turning into 100% nitrogen ! Very dangerous ."

So far, the BiaB has been shown to be a fraud by a bunch of folks on a web-forum raking over a few facts that are already in the public domain; those observations only needed to be pointed out in a king’s-new-clothes style revelation. However, Satco informs us that an investigative journalist is now taking an interest; I feel that there are still richer seams left to be explored…….


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