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rotornut 24th Feb 2016 14:46

Mooney pilot has close call landing on street in California
 
Plane's crash landing in street caught on camera - CNN Video

brakedwell 24th Feb 2016 15:43

In the UK he would pick up a parking ticket. :eek:

ATC Watcher 24th Feb 2016 16:44

Did a good job, find a spot straight ahead , no turn back, OK, luck did not injured anybody in the process, but saved his life ( and would probably saved his pax too if he had some ) Well done !

TLDNMCL 24th Feb 2016 17:08

Lucky Escape
 
Ditto the car driver :eek:

YRP 24th Feb 2016 20:43

It wasn't a fuel exhaustion problem anyway, looked like plenty in the right tank at least.

golfyankeesierra 24th Feb 2016 21:07


It wasn't a fuel exhaustion problem anyway, looked like plenty in the right tank at least.
I remember the fuel valve as great threat in the Mooney
Only flew it a couple of times (and don't remember which type as it was 25 years ago) but I do remember the idiotic place for the fuel valve to switch tanks. It was hidden somewhere under your seat and you couldn't see it, only feel it.

golfyankeesierra 24th Feb 2016 21:17

And when flying single engine I was always taught to keep an eye for an open field. Now I do understand LA is a little crowded and doesn't have many open fields left but don't you need to have some more altitude then?
Gives you more options than to have to put it down on a road in the middle of a village! He endangered a lot of people and it's just sheer luck, rather than a good job...
Or am I a little old fashioned? :)

172driver 24th Feb 2016 23:19


Or am I a little old fashioned?
Don't know, but you certainly have never been to L.A.

mm_flynn 25th Feb 2016 13:47


Originally Posted by golfyankeesierra (Post 9280988)
And when flying single engine I was always taught to keep an eye for an open field. Now I do understand LA is a little crowded and doesn't have many open fields left but don't you need to have some more altitude then?
Gives you more options than to have to put it down on a road in the middle of a village! He endangered a lot of people and it's just sheer luck, rather than a good job...
Or am I a little old fashioned? :)

In the US you are (or at least I was when being trained) actively encouraged to consider roads for forced landing areas. It does show how remarkably small an distance one needs to 'safely' crash a light aircraft.

PS -
Shouldn't this be in GA?

SLFguy 25th Feb 2016 15:47


Shouldn't this be in GA?
No, Pacoima is definitely in CA.

dont overfil 25th Feb 2016 15:55

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Where else do you go.

n5296s 25th Feb 2016 16:29


Where else do you go.
Well, if you're GYS, you just fly high enough. The LA basin is about 50 miles across and completely full of housing and buildings. My plane has a pretty decent glide ratio, about 12:1, so GYS would just fly at 50,000 feet. Simples. Or in the Pitts, with a glide ratio of 3:1 on a good day, at about 200,000 feet. It just takes a bit of simple arithmetic...

Silvaire1 25th Feb 2016 18:31


Or am I a little old fashioned?
I do think the 'knights in shining armor and their cantankerous machines' view of pilots and planes is 80 years out of date. In the US, light aircraft are a (relatively reliable) part of the transport system, flown by normal people to do normal things in normal places. If an aircraft is forced to land, the expectation is that the pilot will do his best in whatever circumstances arise. No different than if the steering system on a car fails and it heads off in an unintended direction. In that case, the driver does what he can, those affected do what they can, and the risk is accepted by everybody as part of normal life.

In the US, I was instructed to view roads as one resource to consider in a forced landing situation. In some place like the L.A. basin it might well be the only resource that the infrastructure allows. There are also water drainage culverts and gold courses here and there, but roads are often the best bet.

n5296s 25th Feb 2016 18:46


gold courses here and there
What a nice idea! Though I thought that was further north, around Sacramento?

Silvaire1 25th Feb 2016 18:51

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alex90 25th Feb 2016 19:49

http://giantgag.net/wp-content/uploa...ood-one-01.jpg

But in all honesty - impressive & lucky to have escaped this unharmed.

golfyankeesierra 25th Feb 2016 21:12

Ok sorry guys, just ignore my post, never flew over LA with less then four…
Cheers

172driver 25th Feb 2016 21:17


Ok sorry guys, just ignore my post, never flew over LA with less then four…
Ah, that's a different perspective ;) Apologies accepted....

vancouv 26th Feb 2016 10:00

Is there not a single engine restriction over LA like there is over London? Doesn't look like you could glide clear.

alland2012 26th Feb 2016 11:05

Wow ! happy to see it was a good outcome and only bent metal.

I fly Florida lots of open spaces to put down...just need to watch for the gators ...:eek:


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