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PA28181 1st Jan 2016 16:18

Do you really need it? I haven't in nearly 40 years of flying.....

A and C 1st Jan 2016 16:24

Next someone will tell me that you can't move an aircraft from one end of the airfield to the other in icing conditions if it is not fitted with de-icing equipment.

PA28181 1st Jan 2016 16:31

I'd be shocked to find that could possibly be allowed, without an ATPL in an immersion suit in total command....

Talkdownman 1st Jan 2016 16:33

Until I read a definition of 'movement area' I cannot take Prop Swinger's quotation seriously...

If it said 'Manoeuvring Area', for which a definition does exist, it would have a little more credibility.

Until then we are talking about a vehicle, albeit with some protuberances, being moved under its own power on private land without any intention of flight. I think EASA should mind its own business and wind its horrid little jobsworth neck in.

Oh, and PA28181, get some time in... :-)

PA28181 1st Jan 2016 16:45

Now you've opened up can of worms saying "under it's own power" I want to know the rules/laws pertaining to those who merely tow an aircraft with little tractors, this could get messy with any luck:O:)

Crash one 1st Jan 2016 17:03


PA28181

Now you've opened up can of worms saying "under it's own power" I want to know the rules/laws pertaining to those who merely tow an aircraft with little tractors, this could get messy with any luck
Reading this thread I am seriously losing the will to live.
Shirley it must be some kind of wind up?
How about:- if the airfield is unlicensed any aircraft therein shall be dismantled into a quantity of spare parts and must be stored under cover and out of sight of the general public for security and public safety reasons.

Talkdownman 1st Jan 2016 17:08


Originally Posted by PA28181
Now you've opened up can of worms saying "under it's own power"

Maybe, but I didn't use a contractive apostrophe... ;)

Prop swinger 1st Jan 2016 17:10

TDM,

Movement area = manoeuvring area + apron(s).
(ICAO, annex 14)

PA28181 1st Jan 2016 17:17

The red wine is kickin' in, whats a "contraceptive astropothe"

Talkdownman 1st Jan 2016 17:44


Originally Posted by Prop swinger
TDM,

Movement area = manoeuvring area + apron(s).
(ICAO, annex 14)

Thanks, I shall sleep well tonight.


Originally Posted by PA28181
whats a "contraceptive astropothe"

It's a little tiny wriggly-looking thing which can make a lot of difference if it is inserted in the wrong place...

piperboy84 1st Jan 2016 17:49

Get this guy to move it for you


pattern_is_full 1st Jan 2016 21:02


Until I read a definition of 'movement area' I cannot take Prop Swinger's quotation seriously...
Good policy.

ICAO: "That part of an aerodrome to be used for the takeoff, landing and taxiing of aircraft, consisting of the maneuvering area and the apron(s)."

FAA: "Movement area means the runways, taxiways, and other areas of an airport that are used for taxiing, takeoff, and landing of aircraft, exclusive of loading ramps and aircraft parking areas."

So it depends on the jurisdiction....

Non-movement areas in the US (FAA) are defined visually by "single" hold markings. Solid line on the non-movement side, dashed line on the movement area side.

http://www.pilotworkshop.com/concret...ement_area.jpg


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