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staplefordheli 3rd May 2015 14:17

Light AC down Dundee Scotland
 
Ongoing search involving CG heli from Inverness for light AC on approach after contact lost at 12-00 BST 4 miles West of Dundee airport. Hilly and wooded terrain in the area being searched hampering the search efforts

floppyjock 3rd May 2015 15:12

Not a nice day to flying. Im in that area. Low cloud and rain all day so far.

staplefordheli 3rd May 2015 15:28

Also hampering the location and recovery efforts then. I am sure everything possible is being done


Update: unofficial source Police have located the light aircraft which failed to land at Dundee near to the village of Abernyte in Perthshire

staplefordheli 3rd May 2015 15:58

Believed to have been en route from Inverness with 2 persons


Light aircraft going to Dundee Airport found near Abernyte village | Dundee & Tayside | News

clunk1001 3rd May 2015 18:06

Wx
 
Weather was utterly attrocious. Just driving past the airport earlier was tretchrous enough - as a CPL/IR with 20 years flying in this area I wouldnt have gone anywhere near the sky today.

And it was forecast!

NorthernChappie 3rd May 2015 18:23

Weather still is dreadful and we are about 3 miles from Abernyte. Hope for a positive outcome but not looking good.

mikeygd 3rd May 2015 19:34

Sadly, it is now being reported that two males died.

piperboy84 3rd May 2015 20:57

Yes the girlfriend called and said she heard a chopper operating over the strip, she went outside to see as she could not believe it was operating in such bad weather, the wind had blown over all the planter pots and vis was really poor, I guess they were checking to see if he'd diverted. Shame R.I.P.

fisbangwollop 3rd May 2015 21:08

Another sad day in Scottish aviation. Scotland is one of the greatest places in the world to fly, but with rapidly changing weather and big lumps of Terra Firma is less forgiving than most other places. My thoughts are with the family and friends tonight of one of my customers :{

maxred 3rd May 2015 21:33


with rapidly changing weather and big lumps of Terra Firma is less forgiving than most other places. My
Yes, another tragedy, but with respect, today's dreadful weather was very well forecast.....and it was dreadful

tomellis6680 3rd May 2015 21:36

Approach to Dundee
 
Is Abernyte on the final approach course for Dundee?

piperboy84 3rd May 2015 21:51

Anyone have the METARS?

piperboy84 3rd May 2015 23:30

Anyone know what the conditions were like at the departure ?

Katamarino 4th May 2015 02:00

I'm not sure where all this horror about the weather is coming from. Winds are strong, sure, but straight down the runway, and the ceilings and visibility are well within limits. I'd have flown in that if I had somewhere to be. It's certainly not irresponsible for a current, competent pilot to be up in it.

C_M_I 4th May 2015 04:37

The aircraft was a Beech 55 Baron and departed Inverness climbing to flight level 70. With the prevalent weather conditions I'd hazard a guess an IFR approach was being made into Dundee. The pilot, who was also a commercial pilot, had flown into Dundee on numerous occasions and had a lot of experience flying around the Highlands & Islands of Scotland in various aircraft types, both VFR and IFR, in much more adverse and severe weather conditions.

RIP Silverknapper

:(

The Old Fat One 4th May 2015 05:31

^^

The "horror" about the weather is coming from aviation people who live here and would not have gone out in it for a walk in it let alone fly in it.

If the aircraft was equipped and the pilots were qualified, fair enough, buts let's wait and see hey. As the man above said...this weather was clearly forecast and consistent all day.

Meanwhile, RIP and thoughts with the families.

tomellis6680 4th May 2015 08:08

Light AC down Dundee Scotland
 
Let's say the freezing level was adequate for his flight, I'm not sure why an IFR rated pilot would not 'go' in these conditions especially as the aircraft was twin engine and would appear to have all of the required equipment to complete that flight IFR.

dont overfil 4th May 2015 08:46

Metform 214 forecast minus 2 at 2000ft.

Actual surface temp at EGPT 397ft (4 miles from crash site) Plus 5

D.O.

Floppy Link 4th May 2015 08:54

…and it was so wild and pish that the Perth based air ambulance stayed in the hangar all day.

maxred 4th May 2015 09:10

The wind at 14.00, at 3000 feet, was 110 at 62kts. Large frontal system moving through. there would have been a lot of rotor.
I cancelled my sailing yesterday, due to weather.

Flyable, of course, comfortable, probably not. Been there, done it, and for those who have not flown in the region, it can get pretty poor, like it was yesterday. Would I have done it, probably not, would have sat on the ground until it passed through, but that is my decision.

No one is getting excited about the weather, it may turn out not to be a factor in this incident, but........it may have been


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