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airwave45 13th Nov 2014 14:32

Replacement of Class F with Class E + TMZ Scotland
 
Anyone got a map showing what the changes actually are ?
How much airspace does Inverness now have ?
Is there a class E between Inverness and (well, anywhere south of it)
What levels is it at and where ?

The reference document is all lat/longs, a map would have taken less time and been easier to read.

Cheers

NorthSouth 13th Nov 2014 17:08

Don't know what document you've been looking at but charts are in AIP ENR Section 6. You'll find the new ones here. Best chart to look at is the one at ENR 6-1-4-1.

Inverness doesn't have any controlled airspace (yet).

Crash one 13th Nov 2014 17:58

The only bit of class E seems to be to the north and west of the Glasgow area. 4000-6000 & 3000-6000. Nothing north of that. Inverness is in class G.

xrayalpha 13th Nov 2014 18:30

Didn't you give your feedback to the extensive consultation?

Or are you a starving mushroom like the rest of us? (kept in the dark and not even fed b*llsh1t)

All the details are on the new chart out today.

Slightly ironic, the CAA were going to get rid of all Class E airspace.

Now they've got rid of Glass F and replaced it with....... super-enhanced Class E.

So we used to have seven airspace classifications, and now we have eight with E and E+!!!

Aaaargh!

You cannot make this up.

wb9999 13th Nov 2014 19:36

The new class E airways in the north of Scotland (including Inverness) are showing on SkyDemon after today's chart update, but most appear to be at 9,500+ ft and a small amount at 5,500 and 7,500 ft. I wouldn't expect them to have a big impact on GA.

airwave45 13th Nov 2014 22:10

Effectively cuts Scotland in half for wave flights, dropping below FL95 has a decent chance of dropping you out of the wave.
Right in the boonies.
Adds risk for no good reason.

Mind you, all those gliders fitted with Mode S transponders (and the batteries to run the things) will have no issues with this . . .

:ugh:

BabyBear 13th Nov 2014 22:22

wb9999, given the restricted area, R610, goes to 5000' it doesn't give much of a margin in certain areas, more so as the actual pressure is further from STD.

BB

wb9999 13th Nov 2014 22:35

BB, there is a 6 miles section of Class E on the western edge of R610 with a base of is 5,500 ft. The remainder of airway Y906 across R610A has a base of 9,500 ft.


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