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Dan4573 1st Jul 2014 23:40

FAA foreign based license
 
I didn't find any information about my problem in regulations or FAA website, so could anyone help me.
I have my plastic FAA private license with a note on the backside: ISSUED ON BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY LITHUANIA PILOT LICENSE NUMBER(S) LT.FCL.PPL-***
I have a valid Lithuanian license and medical certificate. So, it is valid!
But, I was said to get a new letter of verification, because the old letter is expired 2 month ago.
Am I allowed to fly in USA as private pilot?
Do I need to get new letter every 120 days?

Tinstaafl 2nd Jul 2014 03:22

New letter not required. Your US FAR 61.75 licence is valid just as it says.

Dan4573 2nd Jul 2014 04:26

And what if I going to add instrument rating to my FAA 61.75 certificate?
In this case, do I need the new letter of verification?

Mark 1 2nd Jul 2014 16:12

You will need a new licence verification if the old one is more than six months old when upgrading the 61.75 airman's certificate.

You will also need to go through the TSA approval process before commencing IR training.

Also an appropriate visa if training in the US.

flydive1 2nd Jul 2014 16:28

I do not think he will need TSA approval or visa to add the IFR to his 61.75.
It is just a 50 questions written exam.

Pace 2nd Jul 2014 17:17

Flydive1

So you just need exams to get a IR? Any foreign citizen training in the USA requires TSA approval

Pace

flydive1 2nd Jul 2014 17:46


Originally Posted by Pace (Post 8546546)
So you just need exams to get a IR?

Yes, to add IR to the 61.75 is just a multiple choice exam, usually done on a computer


Originally Posted by Pace (Post 8546546)
Any foreign citizen training in the USA requires TSA approval

You do not need any training, so I guess no TSA approval required

chrisbl 2nd Jul 2014 17:47

You need a visa and TSA approval to do the FAA IR in the US its not just a question of doing the written exam, there is the check ride with a DPE and you will need to present a fresh in date validation letter addressed to the FSDO who supervises the examiner as well.

flydive1 2nd Jul 2014 17:50

There is no training involved, just a written exam.

So no TSA I would say and for sure no VISA required

worldpilot 2nd Jul 2014 19:11

DAN4573


And what if I going to add instrument rating to my FAA 61.75 certificate?
In this case, do I need the new letter of verification?
If you want to add instrument privileges to your FAA 61.75 licence, you must first attain the IR privileges on your Lithuanian licence in order to do that. FAA validation process is necessary to add that to your FAA 61.75 licence.

FAA 61.75 states:


(d) Instrument ratings issued. A person who holds an instrument rating on the foreign pilot license issued by a contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation may be issued an instrument rating on a U.S. pilot certificate provided:
(1) The person's foreign pilot license authorizes instrument privileges;
(2) Within 24 months preceding the month in which the person applies for the instrument rating, the person passes the appropriate knowledge test; and
(3) The person is able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that applicant's pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft.
WP

Maoraigh1 2nd Jul 2014 20:57


And what if I going to add instrument rating to my FAA 61.75 certificate?
Do you mean to:
A. Add to your FAA license an IR, which you already hold from Lithuania.
B. Add to your FAA license an IR, which you already hold from EASA.
C. Train for a FAA IR in the US.

flydive1 2nd Jul 2014 21:05

C not applicable.

The only valid option is A , if he has an IR

(or B, but only if his Lithuanian license, so same as A)

Dan4573 2nd Jul 2014 22:22

Thanks a lot. It's clear now.

Dan4573 2nd Jul 2014 22:35


Quote:
Do you mean to:
A. Add to your FAA license an IR, which you already hold from Lithuania.
B. Add to your FAA license an IR, which you already hold from EASA.
C. Train for a FAA IR in the US.
I need to get instrument rating training in US for my 61.75 FAA license and then pass the CPL checkride to get fully independent FAA commercial license.

flydive1 3rd Jul 2014 10:46

I believe you are mixing things up a bit.

To add IR to your 61.75 (if you have an IR on your Lithuanian license) you do not need training, just a written exam.

A full CPL(and IR) is a totally different thing.

MarkerInbound 4th Jul 2014 06:24

There are two paths you can go down to get an IR on a 61.75. IF your foreign license has an IR you can pass the Foreign Pilot Instrument knowledge test and have the IR added to the 61.75. No checkride required. It would only be valid when the IR on your foreign license is valid.

Or you could pass the regular IR knowledge test, get the required training and pass the IR checkride. You would then have the IR with the remark US TEST PASSED.

Maoraigh1 4th Jul 2014 21:00

Is this correct: you have no IR at present, and wish to train in the US for both FAA IR and CPL.

Mike Cross 5th Jul 2014 05:00

It all gets more understandable if you understand that the 61.75 certificate is not a license in the ICAO sense. It is a document that in ICAO speak "renders valid" a foreign license as set about in Annex A to the Chicago Convention. Which is why it is only valid when accompanied by the valid foreign license specified on it.

Annex A

1.2.1 Authority to act as a flight crew member
A person shall not act as a flight crew member of an aircraft unless a valid licence is held showing compliance with the specifications of this Annex and appropriate to the duties to be performed by that person. The licence shall have been issued by the State of Registry of that aircraft or by any other Contracting State and rendered valid by the State of Registry of that aircraft.

1.2.2.2 Recommendation.— A pilot licence issued by a Contracting State should be rendered valid by other Contracting States for use in private flights.
FAR 61.75

A person who holds a foreign pilot license issued by a contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation may be issued a U.S. private pilot certificate based on the foreign pilot license without any further showing of proficiency, provided the applicant:......
note the word " private"

flydive1 5th Jul 2014 07:51


Originally Posted by Mike Cross (Post 8549916)
FAR 61.75 note the word " private"

Yes, now is like that.

Dan4573 5th Jul 2014 12:32


Is this correct: you have no IR at present, and wish to train in the US for both FAA IR and CPL.
Yes, that is correct.
Am I allowed to fly IFR flights with 61.75 private pilot certificate if I would have US test passed?


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