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AdamFrisch 8th Jan 2013 03:42

Pretty tight takeoff/landing in a Luscombe...
 
Not huge amounts of room for error.:ok::)



verticalhold 8th Jan 2013 07:43

Either very highly experienced or too inexperienced to know better!

Don't think I'll be trying that personally.

VH

gaxan 8th Jan 2013 09:22

Tight Landings
 
Looks very similar to landing in the back garden at Hatfield House !

India Four Two 8th Jan 2013 10:21

Interesting strip - 330 m x 9m.

The Luscombe's owner won it in a raffle, but he was already an experienced Luscombe pilot:
Maynard man wins rare airplane in raffle, says it will keep memory of pilot father alive - Boston.com

FAA Information about Sids Airport (MA52)
http://www.airport-data.com/images/a...005/005873.jpg

Shaggy Sheep Driver 8th Jan 2013 12:29

You don't fly like that if you're inexperienced. Very nicely done! :ok:

Contacttower 8th Jan 2013 12:52

I think the video makes the runway look a bit shorter than it actually is...visual compression effect etc. Still 330m is hardly long and with just 9m to play with width ways you'd have to on the ball. Just goes to show what a plane like that can do in the right hands.

bingoboy 8th Jan 2013 13:17

The effects of the trees on wind gradient etc must limit the field use and make the approach quite interesting.

Pilot.Lyons 8th Jan 2013 14:53

Pretty tight takeoff/landing in a Luscombe...
 
I wish my iphone app would show the links instead of "null" :(

Richard Westnot 8th Jan 2013 18:18

I agree with Contacttower re visual compression in the video.

330m is doable in the Luscombe/Maule variants amongst other STOL aircraft.

Definitely for the more experienced pilot though.

Sir George Cayley 8th Jan 2013 20:35

One word - E.F.A.T.O :eek:

Presumably they leave the back door open?

SGC

rmcb 8th Jan 2013 22:52

The length is OK - it's the width that would freak me out.

Said the Actress to the Bishop...

Madbob 9th Jan 2013 08:18

If you value your life and those of any pax (ignoring the risks to a lovely aeroplane) I'd advise keeping the ac at a proper airfield! The STOL demo is very impressive but a tad risky for everyday ops IMHO.

A very useful skill to have as a pilot when the need arises but to tempt fate by an EFATO with houses and trees all around is not best airmanship and is tempting fate unnecessarily.......

He must have very understanding neighbours, I can't see that happening here in the UK. There are so many "anti's" around, you'd think that private flying was a sport/hobby/recreation on par with fox hunting!:E:E:E

MB

Fitter2 9th Jan 2013 15:04

Looking at the EFATO options, and given that Minute Man Airport is less than 10 minutes drive away, I'm impressed by the flying skills but not the logic.

Pilot DAR 9th Jan 2013 15:09

I once went to pick up an MD500 helicopter in Alaska, for a ferry to Vancouver. I was told that the helicopter base also had a runway. As we drove up, and I saw the parked helicopters, I looked around for the runway, but did not see it. I asked. I was told I had driven on it to get in. It was about the same dimensions as the one on the video. As I flew the helicopter out, I passed over dozens of similar runways. Not only short, but hewn out of the forest, so big trees as obstacles.

I used to operate my STOL 150, and a STOL 182, out of an 1100 foot runway, with 70 foot trees at both ends. Doable, but I agree, pushing your luck for day to day operations. The 182 had the power to force its way out. The 150 just made it each time, with no margin for error.

maxred 9th Jan 2013 15:14

Given there may be no logic to it, he may just enjoy it.

However, the EFATO issue, is an issue. No where to run I would suggest.

I have been operating a Cub out of 300 metres, and only 15 feet wide, (the farmer misjudged the trimming of his ploughed area), trees either end, which involves slide slipping in. No margin for error, and certainly hones your tail wheel experiences. The strip is home to a Kitfox, and we have been using it, the strip, for 'tight landings'.

This guy would appear highly experienced on type, I have not flown a Luscombe, but he would appear to handle it all pretty well. Certainly understanding neighbours, if it is only marginally louder than the lawnmower:O

mikehallam 9th Jan 2013 16:16

The information I found doesn't say he uses the strip much or necessarily keeps the Luscombe there. Look for a hangar ?

I suspect he may have flown in & out just for old times sake as his Dad did use it some 60 years ago - when probably the trees & dwellings had't taken all the spare space.

Having achieved this satisfactorily and not bent it he may well be keeping it in the hangar next to his main Cessna a/c at the local a/port.

mike hallam.

Monocock 12th Jan 2013 10:29


330m is doable in the Luscombe/Maule variants amongst other STOL aircraft.
:eek:

Yes, 330m is doable in the Luscombe, but that's the first time I've ever heard of Luscombes and Maules compared as similar STOL types!!!

Richard Westnot 12th Jan 2013 14:41

For clarity, I think I said "amongst" other STOL aircraft.

Here are some types "similar" :p (if that helps.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...4pL8zAjPp9lC-g

Monocock 13th Jan 2013 07:29

A Wiki list that includes a Cessna 150 and 177 as STOL. :ugh:

Who writes this stuff?!! :{

Piper.Classique 13th Jan 2013 11:10


A Wiki list that includes a Cessna 150 and 177 as STOL. :ugh:

Who writes this stuff?!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/boohoo.gif

Anyone who wants to. You can edit it.


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