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Memphis_bell 20th May 2012 19:50

Can you request runway lights to be illuminated on approach to an airport ?
 
Hi;

Can runway lights be requested on approach/finals ? Is it pilot discression ?

Piper.Classique 20th May 2012 19:57

Yes. If it's a bit misty they may be on anyway. Assuming the airport is equipped, of course :)

Memphis_bell 20th May 2012 20:06

Of course :-) but can you request them anyway ?...a friend would like to see them...but it might be a clear day when i take him.

mad_jock 20th May 2012 20:06

yep and you can ask them to be turned down as well.

Watch out if your going into a CATII ILS if you ask for 100% lighting it can blind you.

Memphis_bell 20th May 2012 20:07

What would be a routine r/t request for illimination ?

Gertrude the Wombat 20th May 2012 20:33


What would be a routine r/t request for illimination ?
The only lighting request I remember hearing was my instructor saying "can you turn the PAPIs off please" :O

Memphis_bell 20th May 2012 20:42

Haha - hey im actually going tO fly into
Cambs - are they ok to Light up on request ?

BackPacker 20th May 2012 21:20

Do remember that running 3000 100W+ lights (typical major airport runway) is not going to be cheap, even for just a few minutes. In my opinion the airport would be entirely justified to charge you something extra when they need to turn the lights on just because your friend wanted to see them.

Special requests like this, it's always best to phone them in advance to avoid surprises.

Jan Olieslagers 20th May 2012 21:38


What would be a routine r/t request for illimination ?
ABC tower, request illimination, Golf Zulu Zulu Zulu Zulu

ShyTorque 20th May 2012 22:46

In Scotland they'd need a shilling in advance for the electricity meter.

flybymike 20th May 2012 22:50


ABC tower, request illimination, Golf Zulu Zulu Zulu Zulu
I suggest not requesting elimination (or even illimination) when flying in the restricted area;)

Gertrude the Wombat 20th May 2012 22:54


hey im actually going tO fly into Cambs - are they ok to Light up on request ?
Never tried asking - on even a remotely grotty day they're on anyway.

ShyTorque 20th May 2012 22:56


I suggest not requesting elimination (or even illimination) when flying in the restricted area
I agree! They might think you mean THIS:
(P.s. I bet no-one listens to this all the way through)!


piperboy84 20th May 2012 23:06


Can runway lights be requested on approach/finals ? Is it pilot discression ?
At my farm strip, YES. With a caveat. Please allow time for me to get new batteries into my 3 quid torch and run my fat lazy ass up and into position at the threshold !

Pace 21st May 2012 04:35

sounds like the bit from Aeroplane when they turned off the lights at night on short final :E

Normal ATC calls

Up a bit? request a bit more! down a tad err no up a bit again! I am dazzled!

ATC How is it for you now sweetie pie? :ugh:

Pace

mad_jock 21st May 2012 09:16

Just be a bit canny asking for CATII lighting. Unless its CATII conditions is dangerously bright even in daylight.

I don't think most airports would object if you asked for them to turn the runways lights on low for training purposes for 30 seconds. I think they have 4 main setting. 10% which they use to check the lights 25% 50% 75% and 100%

Pull what 21st May 2012 11:41

Think again Jock

Hi intensity approach lighting should have a minimum of 5 settings

100%
30%
10%
3%
1%

Supplementary approach lighting should have a minimum of 3

100%
30%
10%

It is recommended that LI edge and taxyway lighting have 100% and 30%

Lighting is normally kept at 3% to conserve power and bulbs (apart from PAPIs)

Its a useful demononstration to studes to show how the lights can be turned up as an aid to not only approach recognition but airfield recognition. I can remember having some fun with an FO who lined up at Northolt for an approach to LHR 23- a quick 100% from from LHR soon convinced him to realign his approach!

mad_jock 21st May 2012 11:53


I think they have 4 main setting
I am a pilot not a walt that surfs the internet to try and get people to think I a pilot and an instructor.

BackPacker 21st May 2012 11:55


airfield recognition
I was doing my PPL in Florida, and doing my dual X-country night flight. At some point in time we were supposed to be overhead a certain airfield. "Okay, let's check" said the instructor. So she tuned in the frequency for the Pilot Controlled Lighting, clicked a few times and sure enough, the airfield lit up underneath us.

Not the most "green" way of navigating, but it was fun nevertheless.

Dave Gittins 21st May 2012 13:31

Its pretty standard at an untowered field in the US to click 7 times on the CTAF frequency to get the lights on. Allegedly, its illegal to have a similar set up in the UK.


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