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tmmorris 8th May 2012 07:25

Class 2 medical in EASA transition period
 
Can I just check I've understood this correctly...

My class 2 medical expires on 14 Jun. I'm 41. I fly on a JAR-FCL PPL(A). So:

a. My AME will issue me with a JAR Class 2, because EASA medicals don't start until July.

b. It will be treated as (or converted to?) an EASA class 2 from July.

c. The medical requirements for my renewal will be as per JARs, i.e. it will become two-yearly and I will need an ECG this time and every 2 years.

I'm going to ring the AME this morning to book in so no doubt he will know, but it's best to be sure!

Tim

Whopity 8th May 2012 07:55

JAA Medical certificates were deemed to be EASA Medical Certificates from 8th April. The CAA Medical Dept will continue to issue JAA Certificates until 30th June, but they are deemed to be EASA Certificates.

tmmorris 9th May 2012 14:52

Thanks, that's pretty much what I'd understood. I've got myself a new AME now as my old one had retired!

Tim

Whopity 9th May 2012 16:15

I think you'll see a lot more retiring soon!

SunnyDayInWiltshire 9th May 2012 19:17


I think you'll see a lot more retiring soon!
Why do you say that? Isn't the EASA medical pretty much the same as the JAA was, but a slightly different heading on the certificates?

Or is there a whole load of extra ureaucracy/paperwork introduced with Part-MED that makes it a lot more work?

And how will the above affect the price of Class 2 medicals?

Dg800 10th May 2012 09:01


Or is there a whole load of extra ureaucracy/paperwork introduced with Part-MED that makes it a lot more work?
Spot on! :mad:


And how will the above affect the price of Class 2 medicals?
I'm pretty sure it won't become any cheaper.:{ On the other hand, an under-40 will only have to pay once every 5 years, an over-40 only every other year so it might actually become a tad cheaper, in the long run.

Ciao,

DG800

dont overfil 10th May 2012 09:15

I had heard that the EASA class 2 from 1st July was to be slightly less onerous.

Any details?

D.O.

tmmorris 10th May 2012 11:27


an under-40 will only have to pay once every 5 years, an over-40 only every other year
Already true for JAR class 2, and was when I went for my last medical aged 36. I was delighted to be told 'see you again in 5 years'.

I like this 'deeming' thing. At my Oxford college I remember that dogs were banned but cats were allowed (for dons) - one don got around this by asking the Governing Body to deem his dog to be a cat for the purpose of the relevant statute. They did.

Tim

Dg800 10th May 2012 13:13


Already true for JAR class 2, and was when I went for my last medical aged 36. I was delighted to be told 'see you again in 5 years'.
Not everywhere in Europe. ;) I understand this forum section is mostly a UK thing, but we are indeed talking about EASA-induced changes after all, therefore all of Europe will be affected (albeit from slightly different starting points). :)
My last class 2 was issued for just 1 year as I had already hit 40, the next one will be for 2 years.

Ciao,

DG800

tmmorris 10th May 2012 15:44

Fair point.

Tim

DAS Aviation 5th Jul 2012 10:06

Medical Standards
 
The medical situation in GA is very confusing.:confused:

Last year I updated my ICAO PPL(A) to a JAR FCL PPL(A) due to the introduction of EASA. Although I live in Germany I still retain my British PPL issued by the CAA.
I duly sent all the required documentation off to the CAA. A few days later I received an email informing me my application has been unsuccessful :sad: due to my medical issued by the German Authorities. I duly rang the CAA medical department and asked what was wrong. They informed me the CAA do NOT recognise the German class 2, French class 2 nor the Lithuanien class 2 medicals.

To cut a " l o n g" story short I had to go outside Germany to have my medical carried out in another JAR Country.

As this was my first visit they classed this as a first medical and not renewal hence a visit to a cardiologist and eye specialist. All this added to the cost of obtaining my medical. Needless to say I was classed fit and received my "fit to fly" from the AME.

I thought we were a united Europe?:(

Hopefully with the introduction of EASA, standards will become unified in all member states?

Finally I would like to express my sincere thanks to the CAA licensing officer for processing my application so quickly once all the documents were complete.

dobbin1 5th Jul 2012 18:48


The CAA Medical Dept will continue to issue JAA Certificates until 30th June, but they are deemed to be EASA Certificates.
But are they applying the EASA rules? They just issued me a Class 1 certificate with the CVD limitations on it - something that I believe is not allowed under EASA part med rules.

BillieBob 5th Jul 2012 19:29

The 30th June date has slipped to 16th Sep. Until then medicals will be conducted in accordance with JAR-FCL 3 and JAA certificates will be issued, although they will be deemed to be EASA medicals. From 17 Sep all medicals will be conducted in accordance with Part-MED.

dobbin1 6th Jul 2012 09:41

Will the CAA issue an EASA CPL after September on the strength of a JAR class 1 medical certificate if that certificate has restrictions on it that would not be allowed on an EASA medical certificate?

I am specifically thinking of the CVD restrictions - I want to keep my hard earned CPL.


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