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EGKB 16th Apr 2012 13:48

How much do you pay per hour?
 
I'm based at Biggin Hill Airport and it works out at £187 p/h. What does that sound like to you? Anyone else at EFG flying school mind telling me how much they pay..

Genghis the Engineer 16th Apr 2012 13:57

I've never flown out of Biggin, but that looks a little expensive to me.

I work at Cranfield, and the school I tend to fly with here charges £150/hr dual for a C150, C170 for an AA5 and £175 for a C172 (+ £125pa membership).

Cranfield is a similar sized airport to Biggin, and the most expensive place to fly around here.

G

EGKB 16th Apr 2012 13:58

Brakes on to brakes off - I still don't understand how it works.
Including Landing fees, it's a C152

+ £3.48 charge, can't remember what it was, fuel surplus or something.

172driver 16th Apr 2012 14:03

So you are telling us you are paying 200 quid per hour for a 152???

:eek::eek::eek:

Dufo 16th Apr 2012 14:04

99€/h for Diamond DA20, which includes one landing, fuel and VAT. Brakes off/on, based in Ljubljana, Slovenia (LJLJ).

EGKB 16th Apr 2012 14:04

£187p/h

Brakes on/off
Inc Landing Fees + Fuel Surcharge
C152

EFG flying school is were I'm training.

The500man 16th Apr 2012 14:12

I used to pay £145 an hour for a C152 at EFG using the ten hour packs including the instructor. According to the website they charge £165 now. I personally didn't think it is was worth paying extra to use the Warriors, which also have higher landing fees. I assume that's what you're flying though at £187 p/h? That's the same as the price they are quoting for the 10 hour packs online.

There are definitely cheaper places to train at, but to be honest Biggin is a very good training environment, and EFG have well looked after aircraft.

EDIT: Just saw your latest post! Since you are including the landing fee, which is £22 or so, and any fuel surcharge, on a C152 that is a decent price!

Here's a link to their charges page.

Swerve550 16th Apr 2012 14:22

I pay £160 p/h at Panshanger in a PA-28. I flew briefly at Biggin and it worked out, over four hours, in between £185 and £215 p/h in a PA28 Warrior. And that, would you believe, was with discounted instruction based on putting down £1k in advance.

I expect landing on the moon is cheaper.

EGKB 16th Apr 2012 14:50

Thanks guys, I know Biggin Hill is an expensive airfield so I budgeted accordingly

Floppy Link 16th Apr 2012 15:23

Bleeding 'ell ... First time I rented a 152 it was £22 an hour. Now I feel old.:\

DavidWoodward 16th Apr 2012 15:46

Ikarus C42 or EV-97 is £59ph with fuel with a £35 direct debit per month. I do love microlights ;-)

Poeli 16th Apr 2012 15:48

That's a lot of money. I do wonder, what's the limit for most people? I can't even afford the prices now:O

a4fly 16th Apr 2012 15:51

The 500man:

I see that their prices include vat at !5%!! They must be REALLY expensive now!!

EGKB 16th Apr 2012 16:07

Wow! That's cheap 59p/h + 35p month DD

Also £187p/h isn't affordable. I'm broke whilst learning to fly. Nearly 98% of my monthly wage is going to flying, currently living at home otherwise it'd take me 10 years to do it lol

Genghis the Engineer 16th Apr 2012 16:09


Originally Posted by DavidWoodward (Post 7138111)
Ikarus C42 or EV-97 is £59ph with fuel with a £35 direct debit per month. I do love microlights ;-)

AA5, £45/month, £90/hr

Mainair Blade, £35/month, fuel.

Okay, I had to buy the shares, but even then - as you say, renting group A is a rapid route to bankruptcy.

Equally however, in either microlights or group A - learning is a lot more expensive than afterwards. i'm sure you're not paying £59/hr including an instructor.

G

dannyboy11 16th Apr 2012 16:22

£136 per hour in a pa38 from EGNT inc instruction.

FullWings 16th Apr 2012 16:32

Yesterday, 8hrs flying on 4L of fuel, so about £1/hr. (50p/hr each as there were two of us.)

PompeyPaul 16th Apr 2012 16:51

Holy Moly
 
That's expensive. Flying is these days though not let up in AvGas prices means it's going to continue to be.

Although I saw a packet of cigarettes is £8 now days. I used to smoke, when I smoked, a packet a day plus a few more at the weekend, around 8 packets a week. That's about £64 a week. Over a month that's around £256. So smoking is still working out more expensive then going flying for an hour and a bit each month.

Save money. Stop smoking, start flying.

Poeli 16th Apr 2012 16:53

Lol Fullwings, what did you do, go gliding in a motorglider/self starter?

The500man 16th Apr 2012 16:54


prices include vat at !5%!!
I like the sound of 5% VAT! :)


what did you do, go gliding in a motorglider/self starter?
He probably drove to the airfield!


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