Hourly Rates
 

Simple questions here chaps

If you are / were learning in the last 18 months in a 152 what was your hourly training rate (I'm not asking to name & shame schools - I'm just curious)

Also - as a PPL holder, what is your hourly rental rate for a 152?

Thanks chaps chapettes & chapesses

Stuart

If it's 2-seat Cessna comparisons...

Just been arranging to fly a C152 at Denham for something, £110/hr solo rental, I *think* £130/hr dual.

I do a little teaching at Billins at Cranfield, who charge £150/hr dual on a reasonable C150 or £125 solo hire.

Both include landings in that, both have inevitable club membership requirements.

G

I pay £136 p/h dual on a Robin HR200. Solo I believe is £124 weekends, £121 week day.

They do also have a a 152 which is £131 dual, £109 solo weekend and £103 weekdays.

All rates are wet and include landing.

Our 152 is £84 wet brakes off/on. I think it's another £25 for an instructor.

North West England - Cessna.
 

Per hour, charged Airbourne + 10 mins. No membership or joining fee for students just pay for what you fly.

Dual wet inc. Vat £137.50.

Solo wet inc. Vat £107.50.

Hour building wet inc. Vat £80.00.


Prices seem to vary quite a bit in the UK but from an operators point they seem cheap for flying lessons. The question I would ask myself is am I getting value for money and is it convenient.

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C152 This year is £145 dual and £125 solo (wet) - take off to Landing time plus 15 minutes (swings and roundabouts but sometimes you have to hold a lot longer). This includes landing fees at the home base and free sweets.

It is a bit more expensive than some but I like the long runway and nav aids as I'm not very brave. I also really like the company.

"Could I helpfully suggest that the posters who have given prices, but no location, perhaps edit their posts to give an airfield or operator? If you'd rather be vague, perhaps "a flying school somewhere near town X... Ghengis the Engineer" ?"

Cranfield - Billins Near town X - Milton Keynes and town ZZZ Bedford.

C-152 (Conington)

£132 p/h - dual
£97.50 p/h - solo

(Wet, based on datcom)

C152 - wet

£150 solo
£165 dual

C152

£155 Dual excluding landing fees

FS :ok:

C-150 (Breighton)

£100 - solo
£120 - dual

No landing fees

I would love to see the comparison with rental costs on the USofA side of the pond?

Can't get much cheaper than a 152, but some of the prices listed here are shocking. I'd never pay more than £140 dual all in, it's just not worth it when you can usually get a warrior or better for not much more. They're just so cramped for the longer navigation legs.

If you're just flying PPL for fun, get into microlights. The Ikarus C42 is much roomier than a 152, out performs it in every way, and average solo rate is about £70-£80/hr all in

Could I helpfully suggest that the posters who have given prices, but no location, perhaps edit their posts to give an airfield or operator? If you'd rather be vague, perhaps "a flying school somewhere near town X..." ?

G

Are you sure? It might ruin your day, but here goes:

Recently flew a 172 RG (fully equipped) around California. Hourly cost: USD 160.- wet. IOW just under 100 quid, wet. Oh, and before I forget, no landing fees...:E

No idea what a 152 would cost, but as Silvaire1 says, probably a bit over half of the above. Renting in the UK just makes no sense.

Skytaxi in Hungary offers a C152 for €76 in winter / €89 in summer per hour wet for occasional rental, or €69 / €81 for time builders. They also offer C172 and C210 at correspondingly low prices.

Thanks for all the comments guys, keep em coming thick and fast

Genghis - excellent point - I should have specified that on my original post!

I was just curious of the prices, comparing them against what I've been charged for tuition and what I may be looking at for rental once I've qualified.

By the way can I just clarify, the "dual" prices are for tuition, not just for PPL holder + passenger? Bit of a noob question but thought I'd be clear

Plus, to add in, my dual tuition in Perth is approx £159 per hour plus £50 membership per year..... approx £799 for 5hrs

In September 2010 when I started training this was £1000 for a block of 10 hours...
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Thanks

Don't forget that FBO's in the US list their rates net of tax, wheras most quoted here are inclusive of Vat. Sales taxes (around 8% in Az.) and credit card conversion fees can add to your bill, as can optional but neccessary insurance cover.

Also, some places you might visit will charge up to $7 for gas (McCarran) and your FBO will likely re-imburse you at a lower rate, so check the gas prices on Avweb before you depart!

Despite this, and as a generality, flying in US is incomparably cheaper than here. Rates are often negotiable as well if you buy a block of time for touring and daily minimums can be waived.

My favourite school in Florida has just upped its prices by $20 per hour after 4 years of stability. $156ph-$165ph on tacho time for a C172SP and as David says plus tax. Cheaper than most in the UK but not the huge bargain it used to be.

Once you have your PPL you will find aircraft to rent at lower rates than you are seeing advertised. Even your present school will have deals available on certain aircraft. Recently you could have rented a Tomahawk for about £85 at your school at Perth.
D.O.

I was informed of a good deal on a Tomahawk. That and VGS tugs are hopefully going to be my main source of hours.

Thanks - keep em coming!
Stuart

Late (un)lamented Cumbernauld Flight Centre was £160 per hour plus VAT plus landing fees (£11 a go) for lessons. And it still went out of business.

Edinburgh Flying Club is £190 dual and £170 solo, plus landing fees.

At Strathaven, we are £125 dual in a C42 microlight.