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tobster911 16th Oct 2011 13:13

NPPL Medical
 
Hi... I need an NPPL medical ASAP and, as far as I am aware, I can have it done at my local GP. I am wondering what forms, if any, or anything else I will need to take with me... Thanks

jollyrog 16th Oct 2011 13:23

Everything you need here: Medical info for NPPL

With most GP appointments being only 10 mins, you're likely to have a semi wasted trip if you expect it all done there and then. When I wanted one, I wrote the GP a short letter of explanation, enclosed the appropriate forms and followed up with an appointment a few days later. GP still wanted to do weight, height, blood pressure and urine test. Form then signed when all OK.

charliegolf 16th Oct 2011 13:24

Google nppl medical, download the form and see the quack. My advice is, download the advice forms too, highlight the bits where it shows that a medical isNOT needed ie, do his/her work for him.

My last two were £20 and £0 respectively.

Jolly rog too quick for me!

tobster911 16th Oct 2011 13:34

Thank you muchly for your speedy replies... i'll check that out

Lister Noble 16th Oct 2011 13:34

Medical
 
Mine is always on the house as well

Gertrude the Wombat 16th Oct 2011 13:38


GP still wanted to do weight, height, blood pressure and urine test
That's up to the GP I guess. Mine just signed the form. (After having spent an evening reading the documents, not something he had time for during the working day.)

Rather than send the forms in advance and use the appointment to collect the signature, I used the appointment to explain the process and hand over the forms, and I called back a few days later to swap a cheque for the signed paperwork.

tobster911 16th Oct 2011 13:57

So this is the form I need to take to my doctors? and... that's it?

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1204Iss04.pdf

Heston 16th Oct 2011 14:02

Do not use the phrase "aviation medical" or anything similar with receptionist or GP. It is not a medical, you are signing to say you are fit to fly, the GP signs to confirm there is nothing in your medical records to prevent this.

The guidance documents were revised a few months ago and are now much easier for the GP to understand - make sure you have the up to date ones.

Remenber the standards required are roughly equivalent to those for driving. Private driving equals fit for solo flying, professional driving equals fit to carry passengers. So if you drove to the surgery you are fit enough for the GP to sign the form.

H

edit: yes thats the correct up to date form, but make sure you've understood it properly before you go

tobster911 16th Oct 2011 14:07

well, im nearly 16, so don't have a driving license, but, i believe that there is no issue why i shouldn't be allowed to carry passengers, so, if i am deemed fit for proffessional driving, which, i think I am, i will be able to go ahead, get the license and carry passengers?
Also, is it legal to fly on an NPPL in France, because I read that somewhere.
Thanks

Also, where can I get the form 'Guidance on Medical Conditions for a Medical Application'?

Lister Noble 16th Oct 2011 14:16

You obviously have had all your flying training and are now ready to take to the air on your 16th birthday.
Why don't you ask your flying school to help you with your quest?:)
Good luck.

Heston 16th Oct 2011 14:52

The guidance notes are all part of the same form now - there isn't a separate document. The doc you linked to is all you need (although the wording kinda suggests there is more, I agree).

Notice the contact details for further advice for the G~P to use if necessary.

Be aware that signing this form is not covered by the GP's NHS contract, so they are entitled to charge you for doing it if they want. Some do, some don't.

H

tobster911 16th Oct 2011 15:05

Thank you for all your help. The reason I am going for an NPPL is that I really really want a license on my 17th birthday, however, the ultimate goal is to be an instructor, and, for this, I need a PPL. Can i just do another 15 hrs, and get a Class 1 medical to get my PPL, or do i have to resit the exams and the skills test and everything else? Thanks
Oh, and, can you fly in rain with an NPPL like you can on a PPL?

SteveR 16th Oct 2011 18:36

tobster: Are you sure you're actually in training? Your questions reveal you either to be a troll or somebody with a very, very bad instructor.

For example....rain? It's nothing to do with precipitation, it's all to do with visibility.

And if you are serious about going beyond hobby flying, you'll be bonkers not get your medicall status sorted out before you spend too much time and money.

Your instructor/s should be telling you all this stuff, it's what they're for....

tobster911 16th Oct 2011 19:58

well, i've only done 5 hours, but, i was going to phone my instructor, as she was a good friend of my family's, but, unfortunately, she passed away yesterday, so, I'd appreciate no offensive remarks, and just a bit of respect. Thanks

patowalker 17th Oct 2011 19:19

https://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv...2010_13_EN.pdf

An ICAO compliant Class 2 medical, issued by French or UK AME is required.

tobster911 18th Oct 2011 15:43

Thanks for all your responses. I'm not sure quite what to do. Long term goal is to become an instructor, and, i obviously need a PPL to achieve this, however, money is very tight at the moment, and, as such, can only really get an NPPL. However... NPPL is being scrapped next year to make room for the LAPL... everything is just soooooo confusing.

Assuming NPPL was still going to be around ( I am aware it wont be, but, bear with me) when I get to my 17th, And I have achieved my NPPL, got the license and everything, that has given me 22hrs Dual Instruction and 10 hours solo. 30 hours can then count towards my PPL, so, lets cut that down to 8 hours of Solo. So, I then go home, and, rent out a plane for 2 hours for some more Solo, on my NPPL license. This brings my total time for my PPL to 32 hours, and I already have 22 of the 25 dual instruction hours, so, I pay for 3 more hours, bringing my PPl time up to 35 hours... I then go to a friend who has a plane, and do 10 more hours solo, on my NPPL, fill this out in my logbook, total time, 47 hours, although must take away two, just, becasue of NPPL and PPL rules. Am I then able to send off to the CAA and get my PPL?

I know that's quite confusing, but, it may save alot of money as I know someone with a Piper that is willing to lend me it to gain hours quickly and cheaply towards my PPL.

Thanks
Toby

BEagle 18th Oct 2011 18:16


However... NPPL is being scrapped next year to make room for the LAPL... everything is just soooooo confusing.
It is not. I suggest you do some research before posting more banal questions. LASORS is a good place to start.

tobster911 18th Oct 2011 20:30

Sorry, I was told by another flight instructor that their school isn't doing NPPL because it is being Replaced by the LAPL next April

J.A.F.O. 19th Oct 2011 06:52

tobster

You'll find as you go through life that many people will tell you things authoritatively without really having a clue themselves. Without wishing to join them I would suggest that, as big a fan of the NPPL as I am, you need a PPL if you have commercial aspirations.

Your assumption that getting an NPPL will save you money is erroneous unless you are planning some kind of conversion from SLMG or, perhaps, microlight.

You're very young and I admire your search for answers and your evident passion for aviation. If money is your major concern then look for scholarships; people such as the Air League and GAPAN offer scholarships, as do many others (a Google search brings 116,000 suggestions in 0.16 of a second).

There are always more solutions than there are problems, keep at it, relax, enjoy it, best of luck.


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