Glasgow Airspace class change
 

To those that fly around the Glasgow airspace this may be of interest to you......!!!

SN-2011/010: Reclassification of the Glasgow CTA | Publications | CAA

I understand Glasgow plan to bring out an SSR monitoring code in the not too distant future for traffic not requiring any form of ATC service and flying close to their airspace.

For those that do require an ATC service and are operating clear of the class D airspace Scottish information will still be providing a "Basic Service" below 3000ft. Talking to Scottish will still provide you with an alerting service and traffic information on any known traffic operating in the same area...the other advantage is that wearing the Scottish Info squawk 7401 that transponder code will be seen by Glasgow and if they feel the need to talk for what ever reason a quick call to Scottish info will have me trafnsfer you over to Glasgow ASAP.

Please feel free to ask any questions with regarding the airspace and I will try to help as far as Scottish Info is concerned.:cool::cool::cool:

Joined up thinking, I love it!

Ive heard there will be a common code for Glasgow and Edinburgh

140 wrote:How would that be any different from 7000?

At least on 7401 both units know where to find me, but on a common code, which freq will I be listening to?

Sounds like a cunning bid to inhibit GA and glider flying between England and Scotland. Another salami slice towards King Alex Salmon the First of Scotland? :):)

I really don't think it is.

There has never been a feeling that Glasgow or Edinburgh or for that matter Scottish have ever been tight with crossing airspace. In fact past history has proved they have given it. Creating lots of work for themselves and then been shafted by the pilots doing something stupid. Biggles crashing in Dundee is a prime example.

Where else has someone put the work to allow gliders to cross airways with minimal fuss.

From the folk I know at Scottish if you were say trying to do a trip from the Highlands down to landsend they would be routing for you to complete it. And would only ever refuse you if it was impossible to do and there was a real safety reason.

Scottish info is pretty good at jigging things up ages before you get anywhere near controlled airspace.

Only kiddin' Jock :p

Its meant to be a listening squawk to indicate that you are listening but not talking to Glasgow or Edinburgh App. I guess this will filter out the workload from traffic that would typically request a basis service, when routing near but outside their airspace.

Regards which frequency. There's only 2 to choose from and Stirling is usually the handoff point for traffic routing East/West or vice versa.

Scottish Info / 7401 is another option but they dont have radar.

140KTS......The "Listening Squawk" will be the option for those that dont require any form of ATC service.......as I stated in my previous post for those requiring a service albeit "Basic Service" Scottish Information 119.875 will be there as usual to give that service providing you remain clear of class D airspace.

True we at Scottish Info have no radar but we have the ability to give traffic information about traffic that we know about.....and the only way we can know about that traffic is by giving us a call!!! :cool:

I thought all AFISO's were fitted with crystal balls?

Rubber actually!! :cool::cool:

Right then, You need to go and sit in the "naughty boys" corner for telling fibs!

Well, that depends on whether doing a 180 deg turn & then scooting your chair 6 feet across the room counts as having a radar ! :p

Eric,


I suggest you get fisbangwallop to take you for a tour of NPC.

@ airpolice
Check my profile / location & you'll see why that might be a waste of time (unless of course he treats me in Starbucks ) :ok:
Are you thinking of the setup in the old Ops Room, perhaps ?

Eric I was being sarcastic, given your place in the scheme of things. Ask Fisbang, he'll explain about me and the chocy biscuits and how I know how many beans make five. (some beans)

I know that Scottish Info are not allowed to make decisions based on what they see, but they can see the screen if they want to.


Back on topic, can we not call it the Coatbridge Corridor with a Squawk and a freq to listen out on? It could be either the Glasgow or Edinburgh Approach secodary freq.

I found this for Englandshire. http://jetbox.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/squawk.jpg

Airpolice.....maybe so if I take a hike of about 60 paces....that said we will shortly be fitted with a monitor display that will give us warning that aircraft we are talking to are straying towards controlled airspace and allow us to advise the appropriate controlling authority so that they can take the appropriate action to avoid the infringement.

As for Eric he is a very old and well respected ATCO and resides in an old folks home not too far away from my place of work. :cool::cool::cool:

@ airpolice
:ok: :ok:
Good idea - & perhaps the same for aircraft using the corridor between Prestwick & Glasgow using a 'listening out' code as well.

@fis
You're too kind squire - I'm living proof that 'Care In The Community' works then ?! :p


'Cynicism is the realism of the pessimist'

What about one Squawk and one freq, and since it has Strathclyde Park near the middle.....

The Strathclyde Gap:
From Stirling to Strathaven to Klmarnock to Inverkip.

A Squawk to show you are in it below 3,000 feet and listening out on xxx.xxx with the benefit to pilots that they don't need to follow all the chatter from Glasgow Approach or swamp Scottish Info with transits. We could even tx blind to each other for awareness of other traffic in the gap, making it like a huge extension of the Cumbernauld ATZ.

Glasgow ATC would see the Squawk and know where to find us on vhf.

I can't see it happening as someone will need to pay for the frequency.