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camino 9th Aug 2011 13:10

This mornings' Irish light aircraft crash
 
Any further news of this mornings crash?

"A two-seater plane has crashed near Slievenamon in Co Tipperary

The plane crashed in a field beside a wooded area near Slievenamon around 11.30am.

Gardaí said the light aircraft came down at Ballyduggan, 2km from the village of Mullinahone.

It is understood there were two men on board and both have been injured."

Two injured in small plane crash in Tipperary - RT News

Update.....

UK registered, Cessna two-seater

http://content.tv3.ie/content/images...ne_b_65608.jpg

http://content.tv3.ie/content/images...ne_c_65609.jpg

stevelup 9th Aug 2011 15:42


Originally Posted by camino (Post 6629430)
UK registered, Cessna two-seater

Unless they have suddenly branched out into the flexwing microlight market, that's no Cessna!

WILCO.XMG 9th Aug 2011 15:46

That is one managled aircraft. I have no idea what type it is.

P.S. Is that what looks like end end of a grass airstrip?

camino 9th Aug 2011 16:31

Was thinking that myself.

They have now changed the article to call it a microlight.

Two injured in light airplane crash - TV3

Microflight 9th Aug 2011 17:38

Its a G reg Pegasus flex wing microlight based in Kilkenny airfield. I sincerely hope the guys are ok.

Genghis the Engineer 9th Aug 2011 18:36

Looks like a Pegasus Quick or GT450 to me.

Roll-over accidents in flexwings are one of the most common accidents in that aeroplane class, and since in the UK rear seat upper torso restraints became mandatory about 10 years ago I don't think have normally been fatal. Nasty yes, and I hope that the pilot and passenger's injuries are happily minor.

G

thing 9th Aug 2011 19:05

What's a rollover accident?

patowalker 9th Aug 2011 19:19

One where there are no winners.

Ultra long hauler 9th Aug 2011 19:27


Originally Posted by stevelup (Post 6629779)
Unless they have suddenly branched out into the flexwing microlight market, that's no Cessna!

Looks very much like an Apollo Delta Jet as well........

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3820316/HCU0063%20kopie.jpg

###Ultra Long Hauler###

stickandrudderman 9th Aug 2011 21:52


One where there are no winners.
Superb! (as long as no-one died!):D

camino 10th Aug 2011 08:21

G-BZOO , Pegasus Quantum according to this report.

Pilot in critical condition after microlight plane in terrifying plunge from sky - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

Genghis the Engineer 10th Aug 2011 10:21

ULH - spats are wrong and you can see a P&M logo on the nosecone.

I doubt it's G-BZOO. Looking at pictures of that particular airframe online it has a purple pod and purple & white wing, whilst the aeroplane in those photos has a blue pod and you can clearly see yellow in the wing.

A rollover accident normally happens on landing where after touchdown the pilot fails to adequately keep the wing tilted to match the crosswind, and the combination of sideways force on the wing, with drag on the wheels keeping it on the runway, rolls the whole aeroplane over sideways. These used to carry a significant fatality risk, normally where the rear seat passenger (or instructor)'s body came forward and broke the neck of the front seat pilot. This pattern was picked up by AAIB around 10 years ago and as a result BMAA and CAA in the UK mandated rear cockpit upper torso restraints - which upset a lot of instructors because it did make their lives much harder, but seems to have eliminated about 1 dead body every 3 years historically.

As an aside, I was involved in that decision, and worked out that we were spending a one-off of about £50,000 of other peoples money across the fleet - to save probably a life every 3 years. One of the easiest airworthiness (and spending) decisions I've ever had to justify.

Another observation of that crash photograph - you can see training bars (rear seat dual controls) in the wreckage, so it seems likely that this was an instructional sortie. Interesting that this was apparently then a British aircraft flying an instructional sortie in the Republic of Ireland where, according to BMAA's website at-least, there's no UK registered training facility.

G

swopiv 12th Aug 2011 12:38


Another observation of that crash photograph - you can see training bars (rear seat dual controls) in the wreckage, so it seems likely that this was an instructional sortie. Interesting that this was apparently then a British aircraft flying an instructional sortie in the Republic of Ireland where, according to BMAA's website at-least, there's no UK registered training facility.
Not necessarily. I have training bars fitted to my machine, but I am no instructor. I just like letting my passengers have a 'go'. In fact, aren't most of the new P+M machines fitted with training bars as standard these days?


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