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IO540 8th Jun 2011 08:59

Actually it is an excellent observation that somebody with such a personality would never be able to work in any airline operation, or in most types of business (where you have to deal with people) for that matter.

maxred 8th Jun 2011 09:28

I have been very fortunate to be in the company of some aviation/space 'legends'. It was arranged through a very good friend of mine, States based. I was expecting the larger than life, massive ego gung ho, what I have found is that they were, in most cases, very introspective, reserved, and intelligent, individuals. Actually humble regarding their 'experiences'.

On first take, and is some instances, I was disappointed, thinking I should have expected more, however, as I got older, I realsied that was what the 'right stuff' was all about.

The aggressive individuals on this forum, and in real life, generally are fighting to be something they are not. The real people, on here, and in life, go about their business, internally reviewing how well they are achieving their goals.

This forum, I believe, should be for interesting, knowledgeable chat, whilst perhaps learning from others experiences.

Anyway, I am away flying:)

hum 9th Jun 2011 09:27

Guppy is good...
 
I've always been struck by the similarity of this guy's style (and thought-provoking writing)...

Pelican's Perch #87: Killer Go-Arounds

wsmempson 9th Jun 2011 11:51

Whatever became of Sternone?

Conventional Gear 9th Jun 2011 13:34


I've always been struck by the similarity of this guy's style (and thought-provoking writing)...

Pelican's Perch #87: Killer Go-Arounds
That was a really good read.

maxred 9th Jun 2011 14:10

Hum, that was one of the best links posted. Excellent reading. I will browse his other stuff shortly

Thanks

Conventional Gear 9th Jun 2011 14:40

Pelican's Perch #85: Where Are The Eyes? -- Part 1


Another good one. I must admit I've probably often trawled forums for this sort of insight and common sense which by looking at this thread might not be such a great idea. Excellent to find it all wrapped up in easy to understand articles :ok:

iwrbf 9th Jun 2011 15:02

John Deakin Pelican's Perch
 
I respect Mr. Guppy's profound knowledge, even if the possibility may exist that he's not who he claims to be.

'But' with a capital 'B':

There's no valid comparison to Mr. John Deakin. I've never met him personally, but Mr. Deakin seems a much more gentle and a much more friendly person in general. His "thought provoking" has in my opinion never been intrusive to other people's views, he's just saying: "Don't take things as a reality just because some lawyer wrote about it 50 years ago..."

Just my 2 cents, but I don't think that John Deakin should be compared at all. Too much humour, too much soul in what he wrote.

Kind regards,
Peter

IO540 9th Jun 2011 15:20

I agree; Deakin is in a class of his own and totally different.

He has been the chief educator of "advanced pilots" everywhere.

He is still around (writing on US pilot forums, etc) despite reportedly having suffered a stroke which would have ended his ATP job.

Not sure I agree with his views on running tanks dry :)

Newforest2 9th Jun 2011 17:09

You don't think Mr. Guppy might be Anthony Wiener? :E

IO540 9th Jun 2011 18:42

Did a google on that name... no obvious connection :)

Roffa 9th Jun 2011 20:33

First came across and spoke to John Deakin on AVSIG, Compuserve many years ago.

There is no way he is Guppy.

Fuji Abound 9th Jun 2011 21:03

Love him or hate him, and I have had as many disagreements with him as most, I feel a little uncomfortable with a character assissination of anyone without giving them the ability to defend themselves should they wish to do so.It makes me uncomfortable contributing to this thread.

eharding 9th Jun 2011 21:11


Originally Posted by Fuji Abound (Post 6504046)
Love him or hate him, and I have had as many disagreements with him as most, I feel a little uncomfortable with a character assissination of anyone without giving them the ability to defend themselves should they wish to do so.It makes me uncomfortable contributing to this thread.

I know what you mean, but he didn't strike me as being particularly thin-skinned - and besides, he apparently had plenty of guns to keep himself amused. I doubt he's missing the rest of us.

<click>...<click>

He.....he's standing behind me, isn't he?

IO540 9th Jun 2011 21:21


when he was online was the time to raise them
and this happened, and then the threads would get deleted or locked. I got banned by the mods here for doing so.

I can only speculate that there was more going on behind the scenes and the mods (pprune mods are fairly unusual in almost never discussing their actions) decided this was too much hassle for them.

Anthony Weiner is some U.S. politician but I don't see the connection.

24Carrot 9th Jun 2011 21:23


Well "Wiener" would be wrong anyway as it is "Anthony Weiner"...
I'm happy to defer to any German speaker here, but I believe he did try quite hard to pronounce it as "Wiener".:) Apart from the "W".:oh:

Pace 9th Jun 2011 21:28

I was heavely involved in the flight sim world a few years ago. We had a supposed airline pilot who talked with great authority and detail.
Many stood in awe at his postings until the cracks appeared. Often they were tiny cracks but obvious ones.
He turned out to be a kid who was great at research and googling and fooled many for a long time.

I have not noticed such cracks in Guppies knowledge? The only cracks if they are cracks are the shear volume and diversity of his flying which often made you wonder how he ever had the time for such long postings.

Flying is full of type A egos and I can think of quite a few captains who would be equally direct and challenging :ugh:

Regardless the detail he brought to these forums, the colour and contributions he made will be sadly missed who ever he was or is in real life.
I personally dont think he is some Walter Mitty.

I have to also say he had a remarkable way of cutting other egos and supposed know it alls in these forums down to size which isnt always a bad thing :E

Pace

BackPacker 9th Jun 2011 21:57


It makes me uncomfortable contributing to this thread.
Me too.

What also makes me uncomfortable is the speculation on who Mr. Guppy (or the Gupster as I believe we started calling him) really is.

People all have their reasons for selecting a nickname on here, and thus preserving their anonimity somehow. Me personally, I don't want my current or future employer to stumble upon my 3000-odd posts on here, especially as some of them are made during obvious working hours.

If you add up some of my posts and make a few other connections, I'm pretty sure you can find my real name on the internet. But that assumes you start from the posts I made on here and start connecting the dots until you get to my real name. And I have no issues with revealing my name and e-mail address via PM if it comes to that. But if you google for my real name (like my current or future employer would do) I'm pretty sure you don't end up on PPRuNe. And I kind of like it that way.

Even though Mr. Guppy wasn't universally liked on here, I think we need to respect the fact that he chose a nickname for himself that protects his anonimity from the same sort of casual observation, and not speculate who he really is.

vanHorck 9th Jun 2011 22:32

Perhaps the mods will consider changing their policy to bans and elaborate a little on the why of this ban and/or if possible allow him back at least to defend himself?

We can be pretty hard on each other and most of us are not thin skinned.... So I'm sure we can cope with some flack from either the mods or the "culprit"?

I too have been banned and also as a banned person it was hard to get to the bone of the "why" of the bans.

We are here as guests but our hosts sometimes rule in mysterious ways....

Good forum though!

:ok:

eharding 9th Jun 2011 22:53

Shhhh. The first rule of BanClub is......well, you know the first rule.

To be honest, I'm amazed this thread hasn't just disappeared into the bit-bucket already.

I can't see Guppy appearing on the forum's equivalent of "Desert Island Discs" in a hurry, somehow....although the prospect of a bemused Kirsty Young being asked to play "Achy Breaky Heart" eight times in a row, before allowing him a 30 ought 8 as his luxury, does rather appeal.


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