Pilot licence and log book stolen - Help please
Hi all,
My car was broken into and some :mad:er had stolen my pilot bag. The only things in the bag were my licence and logbook + pens/kneeboard etc. What do I have to do to get a replacement licence? Will the CAA just be able to print me a new one? Will I be able to get one without my logbook? I have a backup logbook, which isnt up to date completly and does not contain any of the stamps from flight schools/instructors etc. Any advice greatly appreciated. PP |
The CAA will replace the licence. You will need to make a sworn affidavit to create a new log book. No real drama just a pain in the ass.
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I'm going to make a copy of my logbook - just in case..........
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Now that the CAA receive a copy of each revalidation on form SRG1119 then they should know exactly what is and isn't current and be able to re-issue your licence without any need for a sworn affidavit. The latter would only be needed if you wanted to claim hours, that you can no longer prove, for another licence or rating.
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Bose X - The purpose of the affidavit would be so I can take my new log book back to flying schools to be stamped again correct?
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Happened to a mate of mine, he put an appeal on local radio for his logbook, pointed out it was worthless to anyone else, there was a (small) reward, no questions asked, he got it back in a day.
Oh and when another friend of mine had his car broken into anything that wasn't sellable in a pub was found over a garden hedge about 200 meters away. Could be worth having a scout about. |
flying schools to be stamped again correct? |
I have been walking around the area for the last 3 hours looking. Unfortunately there is a huge amount of wasteland so if they dumped it, it could be anywhere...
Does anyone know if I can still fly before I get a replacement? |
Ha ha ha, that is a great one :ok:
PS Sorry about the logbook. I try (if I remember) to digitally photograph each page when it is full. Easier than a scanner and resolution is fine these days. |
Bose X - The purpose of the affidavit would be so I can take my new log book back to flying schools to be stamped again correct? The prupose of an affidavit is that it is a legal document that evidences that you have sworn, and your oath has been witnessed, that what you have said or written is true (to the best of your knowledge and belief). I expect you will need the swear the oath before a Public Notary and pay some where between £30 and £70 for the privilige unless you have standing arrangements with a solicitor in which case they might not charge. These days it is far better to keep your log on a computer and make sure you do regular backups (as you should any one) but hindsight is a wonderful thing. |
Like I said, I do have a backup log book, but it doesnt contain any stamps, signitures etc etc.
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What original stamps and signatures do you need?
The stamps and signatures for the initial grant of your PPL have already been "verified" when you submitted your log book to the CAA. The twice yearly review is signed off on a seperate sheet and the form will have been sent to the CAA by your "examiner" - and they will have a record anyway - I cant think of any signatures in a PPLs log book which mean a great deal these days other than perhaps a sign off that you have had a flight with an instructor at some time in the last two years - in whcih case the instructor will have a note and can presumably sign off the copy again. Strictly, do you have to swear a copy is a true copy of the original - I dont know but since you can keep a computerised record I guess not. |
Ok Fuji, thanks for clearing that up.
I only had my licence and log book on me because I was planning on taking photo copies at work... Should have just bit the bullet and bought another f*cking printer cartridge for home. |
It is worth noting that you do not have to swear an affidavit - it depends on your intentions for future flying.
LASORS 2010 Section A (top of p24) refers:
Originally Posted by CAA, in LASORS
Lost Flying Logbook
Individuals who have lost their logbook(s) and are intending to obtain further licences/ratings will be required to obtain a Sworn Affidavit, completed through a solicitor or Commissioner of Oaths, detailing their flying hours to the best of their knowledge. The flying hours should be detailed into categories in conjunction with the applicable licence requirements. This is required in order for us to be able to confirm flying experience when a further licence is applied for. Individuals who do not intend to obtain any further licence (i.e. ATPL holders) are not required to obtain a Sworn Affidavit, but may wish to start a new logbook. Been there - everything is easily replaceable except the logbook. I now take a digital photo of each page, as suggested above, but I feel your pain... |
I keep a log book copy in Excel,the flying school will have all my old records when training.
I think that would be enough together with a legal document. |
To the OP:- At least you have copies of the logbook entries, a warning to all who dont.
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Does anyone know if I can still fly prior to getting a replacement licence?
I would say to anyone though, make a copy of your logbook if you havent already. I can't imagine how I would feel right now if I didnt have a copy sitting at home. Im very upset that I lost the £50 bag, kneeboard, pens, rulers and all my other paperwork but at the end of the day that is small value and I can't remember how to use the whizz wheel anymore anyway... Thanks to everyone on providing advice. Time for a beer. |
Does anyone know if I can still fly prior to getting a replacement licence? |
PilotPieces you can but as a student pilot and getting signed out by an instructor with all the rules and regs that you had before you had a license.
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Any decent thief (which is most of them) around these parts will drop any documents with non-monetary value in the nearest postbox and the local post service will have those delivered to you after a few days--free of charge if they are official documents.
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Hey LH2 maybe they will put a few postal stamps on my documents as well when they put it in the post box so I don't have to pay the charges when it arrives.
LH2 you have made me feel worse now. If it was a decent theif, then perhaps I have been a less than decent victim by not leaving some cash in my car as well, or having the courtesy to leave the windows down when I park so they don't have the risk of cutting themselves on the glass. Give me a break.:ugh: |
Good luck with dealing with the CAA...
No reply to emails (apart from the autoresponder) for 1 month plus, regarding the renewal of my license. I got fed up with it and just sent them a load of papers and a £70 cheque.......... |
Been there. The toerags from Barton, Oxford, stole my 1978 Ford Escort Estate for a joyride, threw my logbook and license and books and exam papers out the window somewhere enroute, and returned the car to a block away!
I still feel the pain, four logbooks later! |
I still feel the pain, four logbooks later! |
My logbook has a sticker on the front cover saying
'if found please returen to bla bla, reward if returned' And my mobile number... Its worth a shot i suppose Hope you get it back |
Don't worry, Ryan 5252, the four logbooks are quite safe, tucked up in my chest of drawers with all my saucy knicknacks.....
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Ladies and gentlemen, let's stick to aviation here, rather than a right-wing / left-wing slagging match.
And yes, "wings" are aviation-related, but not in this context. SD |
PilotPieces you can but as a student pilot and getting signed out by an instructor with all the rules and regs that you had before you had a license. As he holds a licence he must have it in his possession on order to be able to fly. |
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