Today's ice flying...
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...R/IMG_2185.jpg By the bouy.... http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...R/IMG_2187.jpg You can see the lake bottom throught the ice, though it is now 9 inches thick.... C 150 Ice takeoff video by PilotDAR - Photobucket Video clip of takeoff from the ice... |
Chapter and verse are available from the book: Seaplane Operations by Dale de Remer chapter 16 section 8. Original formula from RG Weber, later studied by a russian called Moskatov.
I'd would be inclined to build in a fudge factor into it, there seems to be alot more to it than just the theory. Irish |
Back in the 70s, I jump-seated in a 748 (CF-CSE) that landed on an ice runway by a drilling rig in the Mackenzie Delta. This was a regular operation throughout the winter. I don't know if they used ice-road techniques to thicken the ice.
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I have flown onto ice in both Beaver and Otter on skis with our local floatplane operator. He says rule of thumb is 6" plus 1" per thousand pounds.
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rule of thumb is 6" plus 1" per thousand pounds. |
We have a fly-in on the ice of Lake Nummijarvi, near Kauhajoki, Finland on March 11 & 12. For the 9th year now, in fact. Dozens of aircraft taking part. The largest is an Antonov 2. Great fun. Lots of pictures from last year here:
Nummijärvi Fly In 2010 |
Some video clips of fun on the ice...
(I'm not quite sure how to make Photobucket do this, but there are videos there somewhere...) http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_MVI_2219.jpg http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_MVI_2213.jpg http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_MVI_2210.jpg http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_MVI_2207.jpg http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...MVI_2206-1.jpg |
In the US, a seasonal ice runway has been operated for many years (with FAA approval) at Alton Bay in New Hampshire. I understand they look for 12 to 14 inches of ice to open but that's more to support the plow trucks than the aircraft. When I was flying on skis with a 7ECA we use to look for cars/trucks driving on the ice or more than 6". Comments above are correct, local conditions and knowledge matter more that a single minimum number of inches.
AOPA Online: Alton Bay ice runway opens |
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