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IO540 10th Aug 2010 14:33

A new aircraft engine?
 
Quite clever

OpenCirrus619 10th Aug 2010 14:42

Is there a diesel / avtur version? :O

OC619

FlyingStone 10th Aug 2010 14:45

Looks interesting but the question is how well (if at all) would it work in multi-cylinder arrangement for aircraft that require higher power. And of course single-cylinder engines do not provide any reduncancy - compared with that of a normal flat-4, which still produces some power (probably enough for normal level flight) even if spark plugs on one cylinder go to hell or the intake becomes blocked.

Intercepted 10th Aug 2010 15:36

I would just replace the flat-4 in my PA28 with 4 separate 1-cylinder units on the wings and I would have the same number of engines as the A380. CAA would approve, wouldn't they? :8

AdamFrisch 10th Aug 2010 15:42

Porsche many years ago came to the conclusion that big bore, big displacement engines with few cylinders were impossible to balance correctly.
The 944 S had the biggest 4-cylinder engine in production at the time (3.0L) and it had an advanced counterbalancing system to try to minimize vibration, but it still vibrated more than their 6- and 8-cylinder ones.

The development of combustion engines has come to the end of the road. It's pointless and a waste to try to develop something in a 20 year perspective. It'll prob all be electric by then with some sort of turbine APU in hybrid setups.

NazgulAir 10th Aug 2010 15:43

Install two of them, one on each side of a Cri-Cri (Cricket) very light twin.

hatzflyer 10th Aug 2010 15:45

These are not entirely new.They have been used in models for some time.
Honda are reputed to be about to mass produce them for their smaller bikes.

Genghis the Engineer 10th Aug 2010 15:55

Go nicely in one of these...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rSeriesIII.jpg

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n5296s 10th Aug 2010 19:59

I don't really see the advantage... yes, it reduces side-load on the piston/cylinder, but it makes up for that by spinning it round and round which must surely increase wear. Not to mention all the gears and so on.

blueandwhite 10th Aug 2010 21:45

Someone's idea of the next type of ICE
Twice a many cranks and conrods, three or four extra gears per cylinder, and the little matter of rotary valves to solve. Oh and the cylinder/head assembly rotates in the cylinder block. :ugh:
Has he ever heard of KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid
Lets hope he solves all the problems.
Someone did produce rotary valve engins back in the 50's or 60's and they achived high rev's.

Dan Winterland 11th Aug 2010 03:07

Looks like it will generate a lot of vibration. The oil will have to be special to keep those gears lubricated right next to the point of combustion and there desn't seem to be much flywheel mass. Not sure it will be that light either with all that gearing.

24Carrot 11th Aug 2010 07:49

Agree re vibration. Single-cylinder motorbikes are called "thumpers": The Thumper Page

Deeday 11th Aug 2010 10:32


there desn't seem to be much flywheel mass.
Isn't the propeller enough of a flywheel, for that matter?

englishal 11th Aug 2010 11:34

Looks kind of clever, but instinct tells me that there is no more advantage and possibly more problems? Bearings on gears, gears, rotating pistons etc., must lead to more wear and tear?

Roll on ceramic engines which don't need any coolant or oil!

24Carrot 11th Aug 2010 11:39

I would guess that traditional circular flywheels are much better at absorbing torque variations than long thin spindly prop blades.

LowNSlow 11th Aug 2010 11:50

The gear train/crankshaft assembly is going to be fairly heavy.

Remember the swashplate engine that was going to revolutionise light aircraft propulsion? It's in Wiki.

Crash one 11th Aug 2010 12:31

As a machine designer I used to work to the principle " You can have it better, sooner or cheaper, pick any 2. Very seldom is it possible to achieve all 3. This looks like it would meet none of them.


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