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Rocketraz 8th Feb 2010 21:13

Legality of a PPL Question bank???
 
Now that the Confuser (could??) Be finished is there any legal reason why someone could not start a PPL question bank??. Or is it true that you are just not allowed to publish the exact exam questions that are in the exams??

Anyone know for sure??

liam548 8th Feb 2010 21:58

There are already PPL question banks out there. The confuser did not have the exact questions as the exams, only similar.

Rocketraz 9th Feb 2010 12:04

Really and where are these to be found????

Whirlygig 9th Feb 2010 12:18

There are several books and a few software CDs available. Try Transair, Pooleys, Flightstore, Amazon et al ....

Let me google that for you


Or is it true that you are just not allowed to publish the exact exam questions that are in the exams??
That would seem to imply that you believe there to be a central, official database of PPL questions. Well, there ain't!

Cheers

Whirls

liam548 10th Feb 2010 14:57

airquiz has PPL question banks. Search google for airquiz, you have to pay though.

Saab Dastard 10th Feb 2010 15:58


That would seem to imply that you believe there to be a central, official database of PPL questions. Well, there ain't!
I assume that there is one, actually - the one holding the questions that are used in the actual exams! I seem to recall that there are at least 3 - possibly 4 - papers for each subject to allow for re-takes, so there must be a "database" of questions for each subject.

SD

mad_jock 10th Feb 2010 16:45

There are 3 sets for each exam. They are held by a ground school examiner who is responsable for them and in theory they should never leave his sight unless secure.

Every so often (about every three years) they rewrite them and issue a new set to each examiner they then usually have to again after a couple of months because there will be that many complaints about certain questions.

I suspect what you would call a bank is actually a lump of A4 dumped in the back of a filing cabinet which see's day light every three years for a week.

juliet india mike 10th Feb 2010 19:11

Can be downloaded as an Iphone app from here
iPhone Apps

Another reason to justify having Apple's finest on your person at all times

liam548 11th Feb 2010 16:13


Originally Posted by juliet india mike (Post 5504127)
Can be downloaded as an Iphone app from here
iPhone Apps

Another reason to justify having Apple's finest on your person at all times


so many flying apps for the iphone!!

Cant think of one for Nokia/Symbian phones! :(

OpenCirrus619 11th Feb 2010 16:22

I googled symbian - but missed the 'm' out :eek:

Don't try this at home - and DEFINITELY don't try it at work.

OC619

niknak 11th Feb 2010 18:33


I googled symbian - but missed the 'm' out

Don't try this at home - and DEFINITELY don't try it at work.


That's a bit like labeling a red button "Do not press" and sure enough I pressed it...:eek::eek::eek:

Getting back to the original question, there's no doubt that question banks help you pass exams but they rarely increase the understanding of a particular subject.

Rocketraz 13th Feb 2010 23:27

Airquiz is not a question bank... nor is PPLQUIZ..Im referring to somthing similar what the FAA release for student pilots in the USA but for the UK PPL the (acutal exam questions) from what i remember from when i was studying in the UK for my PPL no one published the exam questions, Could someone start a website ETC with feedback from candidates to start a question bank of real questions?????

Gertrude the Wombat 14th Feb 2010 09:17


Could someone start a website ETC with feedback from candidates to start a question bank of real questions?????
Wouldn't it be better to actually learn the subjects rather than just memorise a set of questions and answers?

Especially if there's any danger of you one day flying around sharing the same sky as me?

IO540 14th Feb 2010 10:10

The PPL Confuser gets pretty close to the real questions.

If you work through that enough times to consistently get 90%, you will have an easy time of the real exams.

And remember you only have to pass - you don't have to get 100% :)

90% of the PPL theory is irrelevant anyway. What matters is your attitude as a pilot, and how much personal interest you invest in flying to pick up the really useful information.

niknak 14th Feb 2010 11:03


90% of the PPL theory is irrelevant anyway


If so, why is it still part of the training requirement?

Rocketraz 14th Feb 2010 11:35

From what i can gather and talking to a few instructors in the US the newer UK JAR PPL exams are geared towards people that will go on to study at ATPL level not for the (Pleasure pilot) that sounds wrong :\

The reason i ask is that ive moved to the US with a new job :ok: i completed my FAA PPL and found the ground exam side far better as i had a groundschool then studied the question bank job done no problems..

When i was still living in the UK and studying for the UK JAR PPL i found i was learning a lot of irrelevant stuff. I did pass all my ground exams but would have liked to have had a better study tool than here say and the some times right some times wrong confuser

englishal 14th Feb 2010 15:18

Learning the subject is far better, especially in FAA land where the examiner will grill you in the form of an Oral exam too.

I do think it is a little unfair to deliberately make questions ambiguous to catch people out.

For example (made up) have "Heading 335 degrees" and "Heading 353 degrees" in the same answer. That doesn't really test anyone as under pressure it is very easy to choose the wrong one even though you know the right answer.

Anyone know the British Standard number for JAA approved sunglasses? I'm sure a few ATPL'ers out there do....:cool::ugh:

IO540 14th Feb 2010 15:32


If so, why is it still part of the training requirement?
Tradition, young man :)

We beat the Germans TWICE doing aviation the proper way, so if it was right for your grandfather and your father, it is definitely right for you, young man.

1800ed 14th Feb 2010 16:14


90% of the PPL theory is irrelevant anyway. What matters is your attitude as a pilot, and how much personal interest you invest in flying to pick up the really useful information.
So you're saying I don't need to know what colour flares I should be throwing out of the window of my aircraft when I get into problems?

Gertrude the Wombat 14th Feb 2010 17:51


So you're saying I don't need to know what colour flares I should be throwing out of the window of my aircraft when I get into problems?
I went on a sailing holiday once.

It was mostly messing around in boats and drinking in tavernas, but there was also a little training.

Towards the end of the holiday we had a session on emergency procedures, including use of flares. "What flares," we asked. "The ones in a plastic bag tied to the front of the mast under the foredeck" they told us.

None of us had spotted them and none of us knew they were there.

Similarly I don't know where to find the flares in my rented 172 :)


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