Farnborough very kindly let me stay with them to the FIR Boundary on a recent trip to Rouen which was very useful.

That is an old copy of the GAR form. A new version can be found here. This is a PDF form that can be filled in and printed off.

A Word copy can be found here.

Don't you mean: If you're not going to contribute? Otherwise you're implying that "not going to contribute" belongs to Russell Gulch...;)

Yes, GAR not required for France. But you need to send the same form to customs NCU (email on the form) 4 hrs before arrival back. I normally just email the GAR to SB/NCU at the same time 12hrs before to CMA !

Thanks for the updated GAR link Phoenix09.

I see that Customs haven't stopped there, and that there's now an even newer version on their web site here which just seems to have added a 'Nationality' column.

They also have the useful instructions and contact numbers sheets on the site here.

I've got a life already, thank you. I did contribute, by educating you as to the correct spelling of the subject of your thread.

Is courtesy such a rarity these days that speling and grammer :bored: (and politeness) is lost upon the youth of today?

Thanks for that Fly Stimulator. No sooner does somebody produce a Word version and they go and change it!! :(

Russell

You might find that all he did was press the "t" with insufficient force on his keyboard for it to register.

But if we are going to talk grammar.....

Why is Le Touquet a "them" when you call "them" up? My question should properly read "Why are Le Touquet a them....." according to you?

What do you mean that 23-year-olds once went to school? Do you mean when they were still only 16 years old? I am over 40 years old and I too once went to school.

Why do you use the exclamation mark when making your comment about adults who once went to school? Is that so unusual?

What do you mean by "23-year-olds in my day....."? What exactly is your day, and shouldn't you release them from it?

And why are spelling mistakes discourteous?

I suppose it counts as bureaucratic productivity!

I've updated the Word document you provided a link to so that it includes the new column and put it online here.

Try this

200906 EGLD - LFAT | Track Log | GPS Track Log Viewer | goFLYING

OwnNav - That's my track log from my most recent trip. I love the goFLYING site!

I did my first proper channel crossing last weekend (with me as sole pilot in the aircraft, and no help from anyone else)

I agree with DVR - Cap Gris Nez, as it keeps you to a minimum over water. The route for the flight plan I used was
DCT DVR DCT 5100N00130E DCT 5052N00135E DCT
as points such as "Cap-Gris-Nez" are no longer accepted. Also, it gives the FIR boundary crossing point. If its good weather, cross at FL055 as it minimises the time out of gliding range for land, plus the views much better !

Personally, I spoke to Manston Radar all the way to the FIR boundary, and then called Le Touquet Tower, AFAIK Lille Info don't really give a toss about VFR traffic going to LFAT. On the return journey, I also called Manston after leaving LFAT zone, and told them I was keeping a listening watch on their frequency until I passed the FIR boundary - again, because Lille really don't seem to care.

Good luck, and enjoy it.

Hi Fly Stim

Apologies for nicking your Plog, thought it would help illustrate things

Cheers

OwnNav

Hi OwnNav - no criticism intended, it just struck me as a coincidence that you posted a track log that happened to be one of mine! I deliberately made it publically available on the goFLYING site, so there's no question of nicking!

For those who don't know the site, anybody can upload their track logs and then choose whether to keep them private or make them public. Any embarrassments can be kept private!

The full list of ones people have chosen to make public is at www.goflying.org/nav/tracklog/public_tracklogs.htm

It makes for quite interesting browsing, especially if you use the Google Earth option to view them in 3D.

I would like to say in response to an earlier coment about radar units being able to help downed aircraft quicker, that an aircraft that departed Lydd a few months ago Suffered an engine failure. He wasn't very high and he had to dump his aircraft in the sea. Within 15 minutes there 2 aircraft on the scene and in 20 he was out of the water.

Have they changed the system then....?!

Not so...I see them regularly on VFR flight plans.
UV

Im registered on there too. Is there any way to "fly" the routes in google earth from a birds eye view?
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4908/goflying.th.jpg

<<3. London Info will say cheerio at the appropriate point, or if they forget you switch over at the boundary>>

But NOT without telling them...

why would you contact SB for a flight to France ? they interest is only for flights to and from the Ch Isles / I O M and N Ireland ?

Love that Russell wrote "speling". :}

As you were.