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Super VC-10 3rd Jun 2009 17:15

Light aircraft down off Essex coast 3 June 2009
 
Just reported on Meridian News that a light plane en route from Cambridge to Lydd has been reported overdue and a search is taking place off the coast of Essex.

2high2fastagain 3rd Jun 2009 18:24

BBC also reporting missing aircraft
 
BBC now reporting a civilian two seater ,Cambridge to Lydd, gone missing at Mouth of Medway river near Sheerness at 1100 BST. RAF Wattisham Sea King apparently has been scrambled.

Fingers crossed he/she/they managed a successful forced landing and we see a happy ending to this thread.

Super VC-10 3rd Jun 2009 18:46

BBC NEWS | England | Missing plane search is launched

Molesworth 1 3rd Jun 2009 21:41

How strange! How did they know it was "overdue"? Was a flight plan filed? On a flight from Cambridge to Lydd? Surely not. Did a friend raise the alarm?

I can understand an aircraft disappearing in mid-Atlantic. On the Kent coast - no not really? Did it head out to sea and then get into trouble?

Hopefully the pilot decided it was a lovely day and is enjoying a night out in France oblivious to all the fuss back home.

fisbangwollop 3rd Jun 2009 22:10

Dont nee to file a flight plan to be reported overdue!!!!.....maybe they were recieving a "Basic Service" from London Information,they could have passed an eta for Lydd to London fbut maybe contact was lost with the flight and the aircraft never arrived.....?????

beatnik 3rd Jun 2009 22:17

From the BBC report:
"They said the plane was last heard from through its GPS navigational equipment at midday, just north of Sheppey. "

Do you think they mean its transponder? Would hardly call that GPS equipment?

flybymike 3rd Jun 2009 23:00

Sounds to me as though the numpty press are confusing GPS with the sophisticated data reporting systems on board airliners, and just highlighted by the Air France loss over the Atlantic

sammypilot 4th Jun 2009 06:35

...or they could be referring to a McMurdo Fast Find which gives out a GPS position as well as an Emergency signal.

hatzflyer 4th Jun 2009 07:50

Absolute rubbish! don't know how this happened. The aircraft was on a test flight from Cambridge for a permit renewal which I had just done. It landed safely but not back at Cambridge and at no time was in any trouble,but the pilot didn't let any one know about his change of plan
.I don't know how this all came about. The authorities have been informed.End of panic! :ugh:

Talkdownman 4th Jun 2009 08:06

<<the pilot didn't let any one know about his change of plan>>

Does he have to?

Rule 17 doesn't require it.

Vino Collapso 4th Jun 2009 08:35


Notification of arrival and departure
17.—(1) If the commander of an aircraft has caused notice of the intended arrival of the aircraft
at an aerodrome to be given to the air traffic control unit or other authority at that aerodrome, he
shall ensure that the unit or authority is informed as quickly as possible of—
(a) any change of intended destination; and
(b) any estimated delay in arrival of 45 minutes or more.
So I guess he notified Cambridge that he intended to return there, and didn't.

Fuji Abound 4th Jun 2009 10:04

I dont know the circumstances in this instance but if you book out local, but decide to land away without letting the tower know, is there any surprise they might be concerned if you have not shown up within three hours or so of departure.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 4th Jun 2009 10:31

I hope someone has told the authorities that this aircraft is safe. BBC News suggests the alert is still on.

It's completely and utterly beyond my comprehension that a pilot should cause an airfield to be informed of his planned arrival, then change his mind and not warn them - if that really is the case this time. But I've seen it happen more than a few times... resulting in police turn-outs, searching of hangars in the middle of the night, etc.

pbrookes 4th Jun 2009 10:43

BBC NEWS | England | Missing pilot flew to Switzerland

BBC News are reporting the pilot landed in Switzerland! If that's true it will be hefty bill for the unnecessary SAR!

pulse1 4th Jun 2009 11:02

I just hope that this incident doesn't result in more restrictive regulations for VFR flight in the UK.

Molesworth 1 4th Jun 2009 11:16


BBC News are reporting the pilot landed in Switzerland!
enuff said. hem, hem..

pistongone 4th Jun 2009 11:36

Hard to believe this one:rolleyes: The obvious question would be how one arrives in Switzerland, a non EU state, without a flight plan after traversing the whole of the Republic of France? I think there may be more to come from this story! Anyone have info on the reg or pilot? A quick nav box tells me its over 450nm cambridge dct lydd dct geneve! Does a Longeze have that sort of range with reserves, wind etc?

modelman 4th Jun 2009 12:19

Overdue
 
Molesworth said:

How strange! How did they know it was "overdue"? Was a flight plan filed? On a flight from Cambridge to Lydd? Surely not. Did a friend raise the alarm?
Raises the question if you PPR somewhere ( no flight plan filed),does the intended field start an alerting procedure whether they are A/G,AFIS or APP/RAD/TWR?

MM

Mixed Up 4th Jun 2009 12:36


Absolute rubbish! don't know how this happened. The aircraft was on a test flight from Cambridge for a permit renewal which I had just done. It landed safely but not back at Cambridge and at no time was in any trouble,but the pilot didn't let any one know about his change of plan
.I don't know how this all came about. The authorities have been informed.End of panic! :ugh:
I'm not sure I am understanding this post?:confused:

Lightning Mate 4th Jun 2009 12:42

Damned amateur AGAIN!


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