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Bob S 13th Jul 2014 19:51

The local authority are also pushing hard for a housing development on the site and if planning permission is granted this will mean a considerable windfall for the airfield owners. I think this is the driving factor rather than any disputes with Haim Merkado.

PA28140 15th Jul 2014 19:48

I know Hiam, He can be difficult. but his intentions are normally good. Does anyone know how much money it would cost to buy out the owners? is it even an option?

Bob S 16th Jul 2014 13:31

With what the owners would get from developers if planning permission is granted I doubt that is an option, but the potential value is based on gaining planning permission for the development. There is a lot of local opposition to the plans so it is not a certainty yet.

DHfan 16th Jul 2014 15:00

Going by the first post on this thread, which I'd completely forgotten about until I went back and re-read it, the landowners are the driving force behind the plan anyway. The lease holder and flying club are just incidentals who are in their way.

It's not helped by some idiot in government a few years ago decreeing that airfields are brownfield sites. It would help if there was actually a legal difference between an airport and a field with a few buildings in one corner where planning is concerned.

Wander00 16th Jul 2014 17:26

DHFan, despite ISTR Prescott saying that including airfields in the list of brownfield sites had been an error and they would be taken off the list. but they never were

DHfan 16th Jul 2014 18:03

I was fairly sure that that was the particular idiot who made the decision but I wasn't absolutely certain. I didn't know he'd said it was a mistake though.
Has any lobbying taken place to get it changed while we've still got a few left?

Dean McBride 16th Jul 2014 21:45

Panshanger Aerodrome
 
Chickenhouse Double thanks for the tip!

I Need this question asked in Parliament; 100,000 UK Signees; the question: 'Make Panshanger Aerodrome a Conservation Area'.

Bob Upanddown 17th Jul 2014 08:10

I think removing the brownfield site designation would be better than a preservation order. You will end up with a few buildings preserved, not the whole airfield. The buildings might be important to the residents and to local history (and, indeed, they should be preserved if that is the case) but "we" need the runway and associated land.

I have met the man at Panshanger and I expect he can be very difficult to deal with if you don't share his views. If you don't get on with a tenant, then don't renew the lease. That may be the simple fact behind this closure.

Of course, if there are other parties interested in taking over the lease of the airfield to run it as an airfield, flying school, etc., I doubt they will broadcast their intentions on Pprune.

Wander00 17th Jul 2014 12:47

ISTR the Prescott/brown field site thing being discussed on the forum at the time. Probably too long ago for a search to throw it up


Would AOPA know anything?

soaringhigh650 17th Jul 2014 16:11

Depends if they received enough donations for their free electronic GAR. :E

Dean McBride 29th Jul 2014 00:59

A response to someone of the Shapps Forum
 
Somewhere in the past with Save Panshanger, is yes, but the Panshanger Residents Committee (aka Panshanger People) were set up when the community were engaged via the save panshanger group. the old save panshanger group (as I call it) came to an end in February last year and like Johnny English was reborn with a new leader and the residents committee continued the fight and still are. I could have had a part to play in all that but alongside saving panshanger, I found myself in a deep personal problem and my focus shifted to that issue and withdrawing from my intense pressure campaign for panshanger to trying to save my personal issue, but alas it was not to be. I have come back now in to the fray and finished off some work left undone when I left the campaign but now the Sewerage Infrastructure partners of the 2009 Water Cycle Study all have a copy of my own version of the 2009 WCS Evidence and I found in particular Harlow, East Herts & Anglian Water were very interested in that doc, shame though that the local council did not carry out their own WCS Review (as recommended by Thames Water). The History also I have found new evidence that states that the Secretary of State can overule WHBC decision on the Conservation Area Appraisal by the heritage company as like with Kenley Aerodrome, Panshanger is also a Factually rare Aerodrome and only 1 of 4 in the UK today. Watch this space. A long winded reply and a vague one in places.:eek:

blakark 29th Jul 2014 10:21

Great airfield, real friendly, great people!
 
Hi,

I just went into Panshanger recently, and have been there a few times. They've always been friendly and fine on the radio. I had an engine problem this time, and the instructors and Manager all helped diagnose the fault, fantastic! I hadn't realized it was under threat of closure, what is happening with all these airfields?

The UK is seriously damaging its GA ability, as licence numbers fall and airfields close. We've lost Filton and Manston and now Panshanger. What is it with this housing? Britain is already crowded, the roads are choked, when is this going end, when the UK is just one big housing estate? or maybe when an airliner crashes in to a housing estate because there are no runways close enough anymore!

GA needs more flexibility, out of hours usage and more airfields. The use of GPS overlays to allow instrument approaches, where there weren't any previously, possibly like in the US where the IR is really the next step from a PPL, with the rolling 6 months, 6 approaches to keep current.

It'll be a shame if another one goes, especially one a good as Panshanger

soaringhigh650 29th Jul 2014 10:39


and more airfields
No it doesn't. It needs accessible runways in better quality locations.

Many large airports charge stupid money even though they are not being fully used.

Many small airports don't even have hard runways or LPV approaches. They are miles away from civilization and hence only attracts the old retired crowd as opposed to the young affluent crowd who live in big cities. They also shut down at the slightest deterioration of weather.

Quality please, not quantity.

Dean McBride 29th Jul 2014 21:36

Interesting Links
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Holwe..._type=bookmark

Holwell Hyde Heritage

https://twitter.com/HolwellHyde

Award Panshanger Aerodrome a Conservation Area - e-petitions

https://www.facebook.com/notes/dean-...30250670318918

'The link above this line is worth a visit'. :mad:

Dean McBride 29th Jul 2014 21:55

Until the First Secretary of State says no
 
:D
Planning Listed Buildings & Conservation Act 1990, states the following:

'The Secretary of State may from time to time determine that any part of a local planning authority's area, which is not for the time be designated as a Conservation Area of Special Architectural or Historic Interest, the Character or Appearance of which it is Desirable to Preserve or Enhance, and if he so determines, he may designate that part as a Conservation Area'. :ok:

Ab-Initio Verimus Calum.

Dean McBride 1st Aug 2014 12:07

Further Technical Work
 
Today I received a letter from the Dutch Ministry of Defence concerning my Panshanger enquiries as a follow up to the King of the Netherlands.
:D:):mad::O

Dean McBride 25th May 2015 16:39

Holwell Hyde Heritage - Panshanger Aerodrome
 
This competition ends on May 30th 2015, but here is the link, if you want to vote; ideally all 10 votes would be nice:

https://community-fund.aviva.co.uk/v...oject/View/924 :ugh::mad::{:ok:

Sir George Cayley 25th May 2015 17:05

Its a big fat 10 from me!

SGC

Curlytips 25th May 2015 18:26

And from Curly.

RO13FLY 25th May 2015 19:02

Plus 10 from me

Rob


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