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Bicontatto 21st Feb 2009 11:14

Light Aircraft Down at Fenland
 
BBC News are reporting a single seat light aircraft has crashed at Fenland.

Police report 1 dead.

Sad day.

Bicontatto 21st Feb 2009 11:39

Sky saying male pilot in his 50's dead.

RIP

Bicontatto 21st Feb 2009 11:51

BBC NEWS | England | Lincolnshire | Pilot dies in crash at airfield

SFCC 21st Feb 2009 13:50

Anybody know the type please?

Merlin513 21st Feb 2009 14:17

As a member of Fenland aero club I can confirm the fatal accident at EGCL, the sole occupant was a member at FAC. I am aware of both the pilots name and type but until next of kin have been notified this will remain confidential.

More respect should be given to the family and friends rather than...what type!

My condolances to all family and friends in this difficult time.

bjornhall 21st Feb 2009 15:19

Merlin513, sorry to hear that, and quite obviously the details should to be kept confidental for a little bit longer.

When someone asks for what type was involved just after an accident, it usually means "someone please tell me it wasn't [pilot friend flying from the same airfield]", not "tell me the type so I can cross it out of my anorak's note book". So the question is quite understandable I think...

vanHorck 21st Feb 2009 15:31

The article reports a mayday right after take off and return to the field without further communications.

There is a thread running about such returns to the field :
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/36309...-possible.html

No connection implied of course! Another sad day for GA and even worse for family and friends....

Rod1 21st Feb 2009 16:36

The aircraft reg is clearly visible on the BBC pic. Owner builder according to G-INFO.

Sad day.

Rod1

DavidHoul52 21st Feb 2009 17:13


Same aircraft, I believe, was subject to an earlier AAIB inquiry
It seems the accident was quite minor and the aircraft not badly damaged.

AAIB here

S-Works 21st Feb 2009 18:18

This was a sad case of someone attempting a steep turn at low level after what looked like an EFATO to land back on the 36 runway. I was in the overhead at the time joining for fuel and another of our guys was on base as the accident happened.

After that I went to Rochester and promptly watched a PA28 crash. Not a good day.

liam548 21st Feb 2009 18:32

sad news.

^ what happened with the PA28? occupants ok?

S-Works 21st Feb 2009 18:35

Yes they got out OK, pictures on another thread on here.

frontlefthamster 21st Feb 2009 22:44

Bose, you wrote:


This was a sad case of someone attempting a steep turn at low level after what looked like an EFATO to land back on the 36 runway
Perhaps you'd like to ring the folk at Farnborough more promptly next time, and save them a trip up the motorway on a weekend? You could jot your findings down and send them, along with your invoice.

Rightbase 21st Feb 2009 22:47

Witnesses deserve some consideration too.

frontlefthamster 21st Feb 2009 22:57

They certainly do, but I believe the greatest consideration should go to the deceased, and that should begin with avoiding stupid attempts to determine the cause of the accident on the basis of preconceptions and a distant view of what happened...

Rightbase 21st Feb 2009 23:25

It's my bed time
 
Perhaps there are more comments being made

on the basis of preconceptions
than we all realise.

Apologies for the tone of my earlier post.

Let's not make a bad day worse.

S-Works 22nd Feb 2009 08:24


They certainly do, but I believe the greatest consideration should go to the deceased, and that should begin with avoiding stupid attempts to determine the cause of the accident on the basis of preconceptions and a distant view of what happened...
I merely posted what I saw and my assessment as an Instructor. When an aircraft makes a very steep turn from the take-off runway to the 36 runway and the nose drops and it spins in then my feeling is that it stalled in following an attempted turn back. Straight ahead would have ended up in a flat field with nothing to hit but pride.

But that's just my opinion. If you don't like it. don't read it.

DavidHoul52 22nd Feb 2009 08:44

Given that this is the most common scenario when an aircraft tries to return to the airfield after an EFATO this is what most of us will be thinking whether we say so or not.

There may of course be other factors so we may yet be surprised by a forthcoming AAIB report.

This topic of what to write after news of an accident is important, I feel but has been discussed at length already on this forum. The correct procedure to voice objections is to PM the moderator, surely? If you disagree with what bose-x has said ask him to elaborate (which he has now done).

DB6 22nd Feb 2009 08:59

Quite so. It's been said before, but to the 'Wait for the AAIB' types:
1) Don't read RUMOUR networks (most of the rest of us can grasp that one).
2) Why aren't you in church? For you are holier than I.

J.A.F.O. 22nd Feb 2009 13:31

The very fact that Bose has posted his thoughts on a possible cause means that, regardless of the findings of the AAIB, at least if I should have an EFATO his comments will be in there somewhere and might be part of what prompts me to not turn back.

My only difficulty with that type of thing is that if a friend or family member is reading the presumption of AE may be upsetting, as I saw with an incident a couple of years ago.

There's no right or wrong answer, it's a very difficult time for all concerned. Is it sadder to walk out to your aircraft knowing it's your last flight ever or to walk out not knowing?

Thoughts are with family and friends of our brother pilot.


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