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sailor 4th May 2008 19:00

Wilga
 
Does anyone have experience of owning/operating this aircraft? Pros and cons?

Seems quite a fun and inexpensive machine at first sight, but there are usually snags when digging deeper.

Thanks to those who may know!

Piper.Classique 4th May 2008 20:15

Done some flying in one, never had to pay the bills. Uses a lot of petrol, engine spares may be an issue if you get the one with the radial engine. Do your maintenance guys know about compressed air systems for the flaps, engine starting, and brakes? It goes up OK, but it is very slow. Like a cub only four times the fuel bill. It's a pretty easy ac to fly, but unless you want to tow gliders I would look for something cheaper to operate. But then I'm not rich, you might be;)

CottonEyeJoe 5th May 2008 17:58


Wilga
Does anyone have experience of owning/operating this aircraft? Pros and cons?

Seems quite a fun and inexpensive machine at first sight, but there are usually snags when digging deeper.


WHICH ONE THEY MADE SEVRAL TYPES?

wilma80 5th May 2008 21:08

Wilga
 
Contrary to other comments air is only used for starting. Brakes are hydraulic and flaps are manual.
It is a great machine fantastically well built and what else is short field with pilot +3 pax?
Send me an PM if you want more specific info.

Piper.Classique 6th May 2008 06:40

I expect you are right about the brakes. Not so sure about the flaps, but it has been a couple of years since I flew the Wilga, and my elderly brain cells fade at times


what else is short field with pilot +3 pax?
Answer = A Yak 12

chevvron 6th May 2008 08:13

But can a Yak12 tow 3 gliders simultaneously?

OpenCirrus619 6th May 2008 09:04


But can a Yak12 tow 3 gliders simultaneously?
I would have thought so - same engine, similar performance, lower wing loading.

OC619

effortless 6th May 2008 09:09

I flew the radial version twice from a soggy rough field. I couldn't believe how easily it got off the ground. One of the easiest bits of kit I have ever handled but as Piper.Classique says I didn't pay for it.

Piper.Classique 6th May 2008 11:35


But can a Yak12 tow 3 gliders simultaneously?
yes, it can

Fynn 28th Apr 2009 14:14

Wilga
 
Some notes and expierences:
WILGA ARTICLE
Main Page
Wilga Pilots - Thai Flying Club scroll down for links

I can provide a link for a Flight Manual in German only.

RatherBeFlying 28th Apr 2009 18:13

It's a lovely plane for glider towing and is great fun to fly.

But it's been a few decades since I've flown one and can't say about maintenance costs, except that it's solidly built and engineered.

Arclite01 29th Apr 2009 16:25

I really like the Wilga - very chunky and heavy duty.

Was told though that the maintenance costs were horrendous and the big radial is a real oil eater (plus fuel) - spares are easy though apparently.

Mind you a big syndicate could easily share them around I suppose..............

If only there was one in Norfolk.................

Arc

Billredshoes 29th Apr 2009 20:14

Quote:
what else is short field with pilot +3 pax?
Answer = AN2 2 Crew 12 Pax

+ tow 3 gliders !!!!!! and on a Std PPL A

Arclite01 30th Apr 2009 10:48

Actually the Wilga looks beautifully ugly I think.................. if you know what I mean

Specifically the undercarriage links need to be regularly maintained I'm told.

One guy I knew who flew one said it fairly ripped off the ground and was down and stopped in 150 Yards.......................... like a Fieseler Storch apparently


Arc

Zishelix 8th Nov 2011 08:51

Excuse me for "waking up" this old thread... Please if some of you gents able to help me with the Flight Manual (on English, preferably :)) for PZL-104 Wilga 35. Thanks in advance!

Stipe

Zishelix 9th Nov 2011 05:48

Great! Thanks a lot, Silvaire1 :ok:


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