you know how they fly don't ya llanfairpg? The earth repels them! LOL :}

Joking Of course!!

Actually I am going to ammend my post cos if I had traffic accident or a boating incident I would be very glad to see one.

I now like helicopters!

PPS what an amazing job local ambulance helicopters do, one of the most underated under funded resource in this country

I was very, very happy when the police helicopter landed ten minutes after my forced landing..and even happier when the ambulance helicopter arrived 50 minutes later. I was in the spinal injuries department within two hours.

You're absolutly right!

Amazing pilots too! I only said it cause deep down I can't afford to fly them! :rolleyes:
The old "make yourself feel better" trick! I donate to Air Ambulance frequently! Huge supporter. I think knowing about the costs in aviation helps you appreciate how lucky we are to have them, and how quickly they could dissapear without peoples good will.

Flingwing do we know each other?

Whtat about the parking meters - when did that start?

FW sound advice - when did we meet?

Al,

If you learnt at Shoreham in 2005 it is almost a certainty that we met :p

Question is.............. Was I a student also :cool: or did I work there :{

FW

Got licence in 2005 - but at Manston.

Ah,

Will put my thinking cap back on :uhoh:

Was that with Janet @ Manston perchance?

Not just Shoreham but what is going to happen to landing, T&G, circuit, parking, etc. fees if, err......I mean when, the CAA publishes its proposed 94% increase in aerodrome licensing fees next year.

How the hell are smaller aerodromes with limited movements going to raise the extra revenue?

Muchos opposition required I think. IIRC the consultation begins on 13th December.

Yes, Janet at Manston. An Excellent teacher.

Re-Parking Meters at Shoreham
 

No - you're not seeing things. Shoreham Airport car parks all havenow 'Pay and Display' meters at Shoreham. So now they are going to charge you for gracing the airport with your presence; aswell as increasing the landing fees and charging for all non-ATC instigated go-arounds (that's really going to help safe flying isn't it?).
It's really nice to be wanted chaps, so Scrooge is alive and well after all.

:{ :E :eek:

A company making money from car parking!!! Whatever next? ... Hospitals might do it soon if you are not careful... Already been through the Go-around issue so not going back to that one.
I really would urge you to really explore the real cost of operating an aerodrome.. you might be surprised at how much revenue has to be generated from other sources and how little comes from landing fees alone...ie, Car parking, Real estate etc. :ugh:

Maybe you should consider flying out of an airfield with little or no fire and rescue facilities... grass that becomes boggy in the winter and a mud splattered aircraft.... Might save you a bob or two!

Sorry rant over.. again..:E

The trouble is if you make it too expensive no one will be able to fly and the system will fall in on itself. Then all are losers.

It is a really nice airfield though! Worth a bit extra? Yeah :)

Yes but like banks they push eveything to the limit - i.e. charge as much as they possible can but still keep the punters in GA paying.............

But Baranby - The restaurant has been empty for two weeks. They've lost more money from the restaurants than they've gained in parking!

Small airfields with the exception of Barton DONT charge for car parking. Shoreham is an exception not the norm.

Incidently the buildings and landside are all operated by a different company than the airside operation. All smoke, mirrors and corruption - I'm afraid you have no idea what you're on about Barnaby

My point isn't necessarily just about Shoreham. I do know what I am talking about.. And if the businesses around the airport have no rent or leasing attachment then the airport would have to generate more from movements. and therefore car parking is a reasonable subsidy.
As for the cafe being dead I suspect with recent weather alot of airfield eateries are dead.. .
Shoreham is a different operation to Barton. For a start they have ATCO's not FISO's, they have instrument approaches, they have sheduled flights which require a higher level of regulation.. All this costs alot of money.

Flying is not cheap and with a recent rise in fuel prices is not going to get cheaper. But why do people always look to the airfields to make their past-time cheaper (yes I know some people fly for business).
Remember They are a business not a charity. People will moan, but I guarantee they will still fly in and pay. Why?... Because its a facility they want to use. Otherwise they would use the nearest non-licenced airfield without the ability to get in or out during poor weather.
If they dislike it so much... Don't fly into there. :ugh:

The cafes' have more passing trade than pilot trade. I'm there most weekends, and the restaurants are always heaving. It's not going to affect the aviation trade - they don't need to pay for the parking meter do they!!

Shoreham has had it's NDB unservicable for months, the airport can't afford to fix it. The parking charges are not a sound revenue generator, they're the last effort to get some desperatly needed coin in before the parent company goes bust. The decisions are NOT sound business ones. Take it from someone who DOES know what they're talking about.