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Champagne Anyone? 29th Aug 2006 23:01

Whirly Whirly Whirly (and co),

I'm sorry, I didn't know this was Your thread. I thought it was about the sad loss of two fellow aviators in an incident near Doncaster on friday. Do we require your permission to post here?

Your sanctimonious self important attitude disgusts me. You appear to want to steal the show and make your alleged 'grief' more important than that of the families of the crew who have perished. If it makes you feel better , well good for you. You really are quite sad. Its about time you grew up.

You feed the press with all the ammunition they require to slate GA with your UNINFORMED AND WILD GUESSES. (after all that's all they are) as to the cause.

You fly into Sheffield. So do I. I have met one of the crew in the past at Sherburn but I WILL NOT speculate as to the cause of the tragic event.

I don't know the facts, you don't know the facts so why try to tell the world what happened when you are clearly not in possession of those facts.

I think the appropriate acronym is STFU.

eharding 29th Aug 2006 23:26


Originally Posted by Champagne Anyone? (Post 2807660)
Whirly Whirly Whirly (and co),
I'm sorry, I didn't know this was Your thread. I thought it was about the sad loss of two fellow aviators in an incident near Doncaster on friday. Do we require your permission to post here?
Your sanctimonious self important attitude disgusts me. You appear to want to steal the show and make your alleged 'grief' more important than that of the families of the crew who have perished. If it makes you feel better , well good for you. You really are quite sad. Its about time you grew up.
You feed the press with all the ammunition they require to slate GA with your UNINFORMED AND WILD GUESSES. (after all that's all they are) as to the cause.
You fly into Sheffield. So do I. I have met one of the crew in the past at Sherburn but I WILL NOT speculate as to the cause of the tragic event.
I don't know the facts, you don't know the facts so why try to tell the world what happened when you are clearly not in possession of those facts.
I think the appropriate acronym is STFU.

Mate, you're hyperventilating. Place a paper bag over your head and breath slowly, and if the symptoms persist dial 999.

Captain Airclues 29th Aug 2006 23:27


Originally Posted by Whirlybird (Post 2800020)
I work at Sheffield, and it didn't seem to be anyone based there. Since it wasn't talking to either Doncaster or Sheffield, it was probably based elsewhere.
Initially I heard the same as Jinkster.....or did he tell me, I'm not sure? However, on the way home a couple of hours ago I listened to BBC Radio Sheffield, hoping for some more news. They said that it was a two seater light aircraft, that two people had been injured, but no-one taken to hospital. So it sounds like possibly better news than we initially thought, if they got it right. Apparently, eye witnesses saw the aircraft circle before it landed in a field, so - again if they got it right - it sounds like a forced landing, but under control. I hope this is the case anyway. Apparently one lane of the M18 was closed for a while, but traffic was moving slowly by the time I reached the area, though I don't go that way home and didn't see anything.

Champage Anyone

I would be very grateful if you could explain which part of Whirly's post you deem to be speculation. Surely by her statement of "again if they got it right" she is admitting that, at that early stage, the information was incomplete. How does the inference that it was a forced landing under control upset the relatives, even if they do read PPRuNe.?

Airclues

bencoulthard 29th Aug 2006 23:38


Originally Posted by Champagne Anyone? (Post 2807660)

I think the appropriate acronym is STFU.


Stop Tormenting Fellow Users?

Champagne, please do STFU

IMHO Whirly posts some of the most infomative posts on PPRuNe.

GA is a small community, if someone crashes 7 miles from your strip you want to know more than ever: who, what, when, where, why.

I see no wrong in this thread apart from the thread-jack that has happened and got us off subject.

Condolences to the families.

Ben

englishal 30th Aug 2006 02:50


You feed the press with all the ammunition they require to slate GA with your UNINFORMED AND WILD GUESSES
If the press do get their info from here, then thay will probably have a very balanced discussion of what actually happened. You might not like what you hear, but tough.....

Whirlybird 30th Aug 2006 07:14


Mort, whirly and co,
Stop speculating as to the cause of this tragic event!

I didn't know this was Your thread. I thought it was about the sad loss of two fellow aviators in an incident near Doncaster on friday. Do we require your permission to post here?
Hmmmmmm.............

I can't quite think why the words pot, kettle, and black seem to keep coming to mind. :confused:

moggiee 30th Aug 2006 09:25

I drove past the crash site just after the accident - when one lane of the M18 was closed for use by the emergency services. The sight of the green tarpaulins made me fear the worst - it seems that sadly I was right.

Could anyone enlighten me as to aircraft type? No real reason other than curiosity.

Without wishing to come over all sensitive, it WOULD be appropriate if the thread could be kept reasonably on topic and arguing conducted via PM. However, as has been said this IS an electronic version of pub chat and I do believe that speculation is valid.

Bit more info: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/...re/5289028.stm

OpenCirrus619 30th Aug 2006 10:31


Originally Posted by bencoulthard (Post 2807710)
..... Champagne, please do STFU .....

:D :D :D

OC619

Julian 30th Aug 2006 12:31

Whirls,

Don't let CA goad you - he seems to have a habit of posting to stir people up, he even tried it with me :ugh:

J.

Farrell 30th Aug 2006 12:44

Oh stop it - all of you!

Whirls....just ignore the last posts.
CA - give it a rest, please.

There was another accident, people have died, give them the respect they deserve and let's not let the incident fall into this type of playground behaviour.

Regardless of who's swiping at who - give it up, or this thread will end up closed. In fact if relatives are reading through this (who knows, someones father, or daughter - a family of pilots) what on earth must they
think?

'Chuffer' Dandridge 30th Aug 2006 14:03

Hi all, I've got nothing to say regarding causes as I prefer to let the experts do that (not the armchair variety) but can i add my condolences as well bla bla bla? I didnt know the pilots involved, but I thought as everyone else adds condolences on here it was the thing to do.. I witnessed a fatal RTA last week and I gave my condolences there too.

Now can we get on please, and get over it. Accidents happen, its all very sad but life goes on. :E

PS what was the type involved?

BRL 30th Aug 2006 15:50

If you know what type it was then please say so here, after that the thread gets locked I am afraid.

I think it is pretty self explanatory why.

7120 30th Aug 2006 17:40

Type
 
Zenair CH601 with Rotax 912uls - if G-INFO is to believed. Should have been closed a long time ago.


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