As far as "dragging some buddy" along to share the cost I was under the impression that all these aircraft were operated on a Permit to Fly. This meant that only members of the group could fly in them. Am I wrong?

Sadly I am at an age where I struggle to keep up with my PA28 now.

Pulse1, one chap in the Newcastle JP syndicate certainly offers rides to willing punters in order to cost share. I did this last year at a cost of circa £200 for the hour, Mk3 not the quickest aircraft in the Galaxy but still sporty if your used to PA28's / C172's.

I'd be seriously interested in a share in an ex Mil jet if there was one based in Scotland as we have masses of uncontrolled airspace and amazing scenery to play in. The Newcastle group is however the nearest and a 4-5 hour drive each way is a bit far for me! If anyone is interested in setting up a group of such an aircraft in Scotland then please PM me.

whats the fuel burn for these jets ?

jp mk3 - say £190 per hr .
jp mk 5 = 260 per hr
L29 - £350
L39 £450 - £550
Hunter Gant - £800-1000+ per hr

Is there much noticeable difference in flying the jpmk3 to 5 ?
Fast jet flying is the most interesting part of having a ppl if you ask me , shame about the cost of fuel ! http://www.area51aviation.co.uk/index.html have a couple of JP's at NW.

Whats happeneing with the RAF mk1 tucanos anybody know what they will be auctioned off at ? What would be the fuel burn on a turbo prop tucano ; i'd imagine they are A LOT of fun tho:-)

Neil - those numbers for the JP are very badly out of date. Count on £350 p.h for the Jp3 and up to £450 p.h for the JP5.

As has been commented on before, actual numbers will vary somewhat based on altitude and flight-type. Sadly, they won't get close to the numbers you mention.

damm oil price ! :mad:

Neil

I also think you are over the top with the Gnat. A JP5 burns about 750 litres of F34 per hour (on average). Gnat probably burns about 1000 - 1200 litres an hour. With the price of Jet into your tank at a little over 50p a litre, this will set you back at about £400 quid an hour for the JP5, and £700 quid for the Gnat.

Best person to ask on the Gnat (and the hunter too for that matter) would be the rugged handsome chap from delta jets, or maybe Mitten? You out there somewhere? ;)

Confabulous
 

The insurance banter posted elsewhere is inaccurate in the case of Deltajets.

Because of the size of the fleet, we can insure one aircraft at a time, temporarily up the cover for airshows or busy weeks, then retrograde back to single cover.

The relationship with the insurance company is very good and they are very flexible.

The main limitation in the future will be engine life, probably in about a decade or so. Once engines are life expired, that's it and there are relatively few around.

My advice is to get your money out and come and fly. These things wont be around forever and you are a long time dead. Guaranteed grin for at least a month afterwards.

Ref going to the USA - I have it on good authority you wont even get a sniff at the controls (post 9/11 blah blah).

Ref JP3 v JP5 - anyone who thinks the performance is even remotely similar needs medical help!

nuff said

KMB 01

Will do, finally some accurate information! See you there later in the year :cool: :ok: