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Aunt Mabel 11th Sep 2005 11:07

Is there a pilot onboard?
 
In an emergency could a PPL land an airliner?

ironbutt57 11th Sep 2005 11:10

Why do you ask???

dada 11th Sep 2005 11:14

Suspicious question if you ask me

Aunt Mabel 11th Sep 2005 11:19

I can land a C152 and wondered if I would have any chance of getting an airliner (eg. B737) down in one piece.

YYZ 11th Sep 2005 11:22

A very loaded question, especially as you have just registered & it's your first ever post?

If you do have a PPL, you will recall how difficult it was to master the small aircraft you learnt in, then think of the flight deck on any jet; finally, draw your own conclusions...

SeldomFixit 11th Sep 2005 11:23

Mabel. Do the right thing and delete this post. It's embarassing.:ugh:

Aunt Mabel 11th Sep 2005 11:36

Why embarassing?
Sorry, I feel like I've unwittingly walked into a gay bar. I'll descretely leave!

dada 11th Sep 2005 11:45

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Final 3 Greens 11th Sep 2005 11:59


In an emergency could a PPL land an airliner?
With the right training and if s/he was current on type.

Yellow Sun 11th Sep 2005 11:59

Dear Aunt Mabel,


In an emergency could a PPL land an airliner?
This forum is called "Rumours & News",. there is another forum called Questions ]

If you are a PPL and you have difficulty finding the correct location to post your query then I don't give you much of a chance of landing an airliner.

YS

Non Normal 11th Sep 2005 12:10


With the right training and if s/he was current on type.
:} :} :} Damn right too! Bahahahaha!!:E :E

emeritus 11th Sep 2005 12:18

Aunt Mabel.......The only way to answer your question is to hire a simulator and try your LUCK.!

Gingerbread Man 11th Sep 2005 14:10

This one was done to death on JetBlast. The answer seems to be a simple 'no'. Yes, I will agree that the basic flight controls do the same job in all fixed-wing aircraft (with the possible exception of a harrier), but consider the docile way in which an airliner will respond to your commands and then add to that the fact that the airliner will land faster than Vmax for most training aircraft. This makes the whole process a very delicate balancing act that ATPLs make their living from. Jet engines also have delayed reaction times, and will probably produce unexpected pitching moments if you are flying manually. I don't know personally, but i've heard that autopilot systems are not straight-forward pieces of kit to the uninitiated. Neither are the radios.

All things considered, it's a nice idea and one that i've thought of many times, but probably a bit beyond us PPLs in practice.

Ginger ;)

Send Clowns 11th Sep 2005 17:14

No, but an autopilot can :}

fly mayday airlines 11th Sep 2005 17:27

Nothing wrong with the question,who hasen't wondered if they could land an airliner.The problem is the answer. Dear auntie go and hire a simulator at gatwick or luton for £250 for 20 mins and then you can tell us the answer.It's something i plan to do.

Final 3 Greens 11th Sep 2005 20:01

Did it a few years ago. After about 10 hours, I could land the sim okay.

But....

- no weather
- no stress (you can't die)
- I had a world class instructor

... and it was a sim.

Even then, I wouldn't have liked to try for real, certainly not now.

Keef 11th Sep 2005 20:14

I tried it once in a sim. The answer to the question is "No, but the crash might be a bit less disastrous than a non-pilot attempting the same thing."

I suspect (with tongue in cheek) that a 12 year old with a few hundred hours of time on MSFS might have a better chance.

Shaggy Sheep Driver 11th Sep 2005 20:33

It's an aeroplane. You're a pilot. If you're pretty experienced (not a rookie), it should be possible (survivable, at the very least).

SSD

fly mayday airlines 11th Sep 2005 21:19

On two different occassions two different B737 pilots have told me that if you can land the add on for flight sim PMDG 737NG then you would have no problem landing the real thing however ive also been told that the Airbus are more difficult to land.

QDMQDMQDM 11th Sep 2005 21:28

Experienced PPL left seat, geeky kid flight-simmer in the right seat 'qualified on type'.

I reckon that combination would have a chance.

QDM


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