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StrateandLevel 8th Jul 2004 18:40

In the days of traditional radio operators dialing up a frequency, was often referred to as "xyz coming up" or "coming up on XYZ"

"Coming down" is probably a derivative of this practice as the transponder is sending the signal back down to the ground station.

PILOTGAL 9th Jul 2004 04:05

Sorry redsnail you got it perfectly backwards.

Australian pilots use "Romeo" NOT Rodger :ok:

maxmegger 12th Jul 2004 21:11

There seems to be a bit of confusion re Roger in Australia. Romeo is used for the letter R in the phonetic alphabet, Roger is used to say yes, although affirm is more common.
The story I heard about the origin of Roger was that the first radio controlled airport in the US of A used to get pilots to acknowledge transmissions with their name. Roger used was a very busy pilot at that airport and so visiting pilots would hear his name more that others. Eventually they all started using his name.

Steve

Human Factor 12th Jul 2004 21:23

4-7-11,

Charlie Charlie is still used on HF.

Just noticed the co-incidence!! :p

HF

maxmegger 13th Jul 2004 00:18

Just got this from my brother who is in the Oz navy;

I spoke to James who was a Communicator and is now a Seaman Officer. The
Navy uses the word ROGER, the only time it would use ROMEO is when using
flags. (ie. Flag Romeo) Sydney Harbour Control and Coastwatch use the word
ROMEO.

Steve

compressor stall 13th Jul 2004 01:06

Um Pilotgal....in Oz, ROMEO is only used in the phonetic alphabet to signify the letter R. Nothing else.

ROGER is used to signify "message understood".

In 8 years of flying in just about every cornor of Oz, I have yet to hear anything different.

QNH 1013 13th Jul 2004 06:58

Quote: In OZ........ ROGER is used to signify "message understood"

Thats interesting because in the UK "Roger" simply means that you have received ALL of the last transmission. It has nothing to do with comprehension, agreement or complying. In other words you may not have understood any of it, but the reply is still "Roger". This is obviously an extreme example, but nevertherless correct.
However, only a fool would not then ask questions to clarify any uncertainty.
In the UK, "yes" is spoken as "affirm" and "true, or accurate" is spoken as "correct" on the RT.

All in CAP 413

BEagle 13th Jul 2004 13:26

"There seems to be a bit of confusion re Roger in Australia."

Not in the minds of a few million sheep, I would venture....:E

'Roger' means, quite literally, "I heard you".







Unless it involves sheep, of course...

englishal 13th Jul 2004 13:37

that made me chuckle :} :} :}


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