Headset?

[justjohn737]

Hi guys, sorry to bring this back from the dead - I wondered what headsets jet operators would recommend? I used to use the company headsets prior to covid, but have decided to take the leap and buy my own. I have a pair of A20s for GA flying and have tried them on the flight deck, but they are too big and bulky for long sectors. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[Brian Pern]

The Bose Aviation headset seems to be very popular, personally I find it too bulky, I've always liked the Telex Airman 850

[justjohn737]

Thanks a lot for the reply Brian. How do you find the ANR on the 850? Do you have to have a battery pack to operate like on the Bose?

[Brian Pern]

Originally Posted by justjohn737

Thanks a lot for the reply Brian. How do you find the ANR on the 850? Do you have to have a battery pack to operate like on the Bose?

Your welcome John, the Telex does not use batteries, it takes power from the jack plugs, The ANR is not in the same league as the Bose, of course its less than half the price, but I find it works for me and I find it quite comfy after a full days work.

If you can, ask the guys you fly with what they use, don't feel you should rush into it, just because you are using your David Clarks, I am sure you will find one that works for you.

[justjohn737]

Originally Posted by Brian Pern

Your welcome John, the Telex does not use batteries, it takes power from the jack plugs, The ANR is not in the same league as the Bose, of course its less than half the price, but I find it works for me and I find it quite comfy after a full days work.

If you can, ask the guys you fly with what they use, don't feel you should rush into it, just because you are using your David Clarks, I am sure you will find one that works for you.

Thanks a lot for your advice Brian, it's really appreciated! Have a great day.

[Brian Pern]

Originally Posted by justjohn737

Thanks a lot for your advice Brian, it's really appreciated! Have a great day.

your very welcome John, Safe flying

[flipperthebush]

Thank you for the info Double_barrel,
I have now bitten the bullet and bought this setup, hopefully when my renewed Licence appears on the mat I can try it out for real.

Thanks for the added link to the spare ear cups. I'm sure a set will be required at some point, as I also use them for hedge cutting and lawn mowing so they are sure to get some wear!

[BuddingPilot1]

Aerotion Aviation Headsets

Hi everyone.
i’m just starting to embark on my PPL training at my local flight school & my instructor has recommended I get my own headset.
i’ve being looking online & came across Aerotion Aviation. There aren’t many reviews available for them, but what is there are good.
Does anyone have any experience with these headsets? What are they like?

[avionimc]

The ANR model looks good, and very light weight.
https://www.aerotion.com/

I use the David Clark DC ONE-X ENC Headsets. For me they are the best (better than Bose A20).

[Jhieminga]

Feel free to have a look at the Headset topic that is shown as a sticky topic at the top of this list (or click here). Headsets are very personal and if you have just set off on your PPL adventure, you probably won't have a very definitive preference yet. My advice: go for the best one that you can afford and buy one with ANR. It will easily last more than 10 years and even though you won't notice it now, in the long run a better headset with ANR will keep your hearing in better shape.

[Fl1ingfrog]

A good quality headset such as a David Clarke are a must. when learning to fly. But, it is my view is to steer clear of ANR headsets whilst an ab-initio pilot. It is not a good idea to suppress all ambient sound, particularly the engine notes, because these are an important tool when learning to control.the aeroplane. The various noises around the aeroplane from starting through to flight are part of the environment that you are new to and these should not be wholly suppressed, they are part of your learning.

[Grummaniser]

Better yet - if you buy an ANR headset and are disciplined enough to keep the ANR switched off until at least you have got your PPL you will have bought one headset for both periods of your flying career.

[Jhieminga]

While I agree with Fl1ingfrog that the aural environment is also part of your learning, I am not in favour of switching off ANR or avoiding it for this purpose. ANR only reduces the aural impact of the low frequency noises and there are also many users who will tell you that you can hear more of what your engine is doing thanks to ANR. The cumulative effect of noise on your hearing is a long-term effect and by the time you notice it, you will be too late to do anything about it. Short-term, you will feel less fatigued thanks to ANR and this will be a positive effect, especially during training. Opinions vary on this subject of course.

[A and C]

Comment minefield !

Headsets are a far too personal item for there to be a correct answer, the only answer is does it work for you.

The only comments I would wish to make are on reliability and the ANR performance.

For reliability my DC’s are hard to beat, they have worked faultlessly since 1993 needing only the ear cushions replaced.

Having moved in to the world of ANR with the Bose x a few years back these have been faultless for 2500 hours of flying with only the ear cushions being replaced. I think the battery life is not great but as I don’t often fly aircraft without a power supply for the Bose I can’t put an accurate number on battery life.

The bottom line is you get what you pay for and before I got the DC’s back in 1993 I had a string of bargain basement headsets that gave indifferent sound quality and poor reliability. I guess if when I started flying back in 1979 I had got A pair of DC’s I would probably still have them and saved my self a lot of money.

[MrSandyWilly]

UK PPL student first headset

Hey there

New here, so I’m sorry if I got the wrong forum - I tried my best! I want to invest in my own headset but obviously want advice on which to choose. I’d like a decently cheap one but I’m willing to splash out a little bit for a high ish quality one that will last for a while.

I’ve heard good things about the David Clark H10-13.4 so I might get that but I’d love to know if you have any cheaper favourites!

Thanks!

[Pilot DAR]

Welcome MrSandyWilly,

I will move this thread to the "headsets" sticky in this forum shortly, though am leaving it here just now, so you'll not think it's been deleted!

As for headsets, I bought my first David Clark in 1983, and used it through to it's sad loss in a fire a year ago. I have always recommended by the simple version of the best quality you can find, and the lower cost David Clarks are that. You don't need the cost of full noise cancelling, and don't want the cost of repairing or replacing a lower quality headset either. David Clarks are not the only good headset out there, but, there are no surprises with them either!

[MrSandyWilly]

Thanks, I’ll keep an eye there

And that’s super helpful! Glad to know that if I do go for a DC my money won’t be wasted. Sorry about your headset… still… 39 years is pretty good😅

[Pilot DAR]

Sorry about your headset… still… 39 years is pretty good😅

Thanks, it was a sad loss, as well as the very nice Cessna 150 it was in, which was in my hangar when a tractor also there immolated itself. I haven't replaced the C150, but I did buy another David Clark!

[India Four Two]

Sandy,

Make sure you read this whole thread - there is a lot of good advice based on practical experience.

I strongly recommend that whatever headset you choose, try it before you buy. Ten minutes wandering around a pilot store doesn't do it - you need to go for a flight of more than one hour.

DCs are very good headsets but I can't wear one for a long time - my head is too broad! I have been using a Lightspeed 2 noise-cancelling headset for the last five years. Expensive but well worth it in my opinion.

[MrSandyWilly]

Originally Posted by India Four Two

Sandy,

Make sure you read this whole thread - there is a lot of good advice based on practical experience.

I strongly recommend that whatever headset you choose, try it before you buy. Ten minutes wandering around a pilot store doesn't do it - you need to go for a flight of more than one hour.

DCs are very good headsets but I can't wear one for a long time - my head is too broad! I have been using a Lightspeed 2 noise-cancelling headset for the last five years. Expensive but well worth it in my opinion.

Thanks, that’s really helpful. I’ll have a search through this thread when I have a spare few minutes. And yes! I’ll definitely see if there are any ones I can borrow at my flight school (or any recommendations there)