ARV Super 2, who owns the product now?
ARV Super 2, who owns the product now?
I wonder if anyone on here knows who owns the ARV Super 2 design now?
Information from searches on the Internet stop in 2013/14 when the design was being sold on by Opus Aircraft in USA, but it seems possible that the auction fell through. They, Opus Aircraft, were looking forward to having a new production line open in 2015, but I cannot find any information to suggest this has happened. A pity really because the design is a good one, it just needed a decent engine such as those that have been re-engined with Rotax or Jabiru.
Information from searches on the Internet stop in 2013/14 when the design was being sold on by Opus Aircraft in USA, but it seems possible that the auction fell through. They, Opus Aircraft, were looking forward to having a new production line open in 2015, but I cannot find any information to suggest this has happened. A pity really because the design is a good one, it just needed a decent engine such as those that have been re-engined with Rotax or Jabiru.
And why would one want "just another C42/Eurofox/Rans S6/..."? Or is there really something so very special to set this design apart from the mainstream? Pricing in sterling only, perhaps? :grin:
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I believe that ARV's are classified as "orphaned" now and are looked after under the excellent custodianship of the LAA's PtF system .
The chap I share my hangar with had one for years , it was a really nice little machine and his was powered by a Rotax 912 , although I'm sure a suitably engined Jabiru would have also been a good combination.
I haven't seen one with the original Hewland engine for years and assume that most of them have been re-engined .
Airframe-wise they were as solid as a rock .
When they came out , I think it was hoped that they could knock the C.152's crown off as a trainer . But I believe its Hewland 2-stroke was its Achilles' heel .
I believe that ARV's are classified as "orphaned" now and are looked after under the excellent custodianship of the LAA's PtF system .
The chap I share my hangar with had one for years , it was a really nice little machine and his was powered by a Rotax 912 , although I'm sure a suitably engined Jabiru would have also been a good combination.
I haven't seen one with the original Hewland engine for years and assume that most of them have been re-engined .
Airframe-wise they were as solid as a rock .
When they came out , I think it was hoped that they could knock the C.152's crown off as a trainer . But I believe its Hewland 2-stroke was its Achilles' heel .
Was it perhaps a victim of the old adage that you shouldn't put a "new" design of engine on a "new" design of airframe? The e-go is a more recent example although it could be argued that the engine it used wasn't new as it had been used in a drone application but not on an aircraft.
I remember having a PR trial flight with designer Richard Noble at Cardiff back in the 1980’s.
My quote from way back sums it up.
My quote from way back sums it up.
Pretty much a copy of the Bolkow.
I flew in the original demo machine with Richard Noble. Nice aircraft, nice man, nice Daily Express logos...but I would never waste money on one.
I flew in the original demo machine with Richard Noble. Nice aircraft, nice man, nice Daily Express logos...but I would never waste money on one.
I suspect it's still owned by Richard Noble. If he doesn't, he'll certainly know who does - he's still a big fan of his creation and I've heard him enthuse about it.
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Rewording. I knew it's now an "orphan", but was it originally certified? That might make it easier for someone to get it in production, with a Rotax, as an EASA aircraft.
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But I believe its Hewland 2-stroke was its Achilles' heel .
It was a long time ago but Lancs Aero Club had set about looking to replace its fleet of C150's. I was on the Committee at the time though in a junior role. A/c in contention included the ARV plus the V tailed Robin ATL. For some reason TV News became interested and interviewed the Club Chairman who stated his interest in the ARV and mentioned a fleet order for 5 planes.
The following morning the phone in the tower rang a few times but not from ARV, Richard Noble or anyone else involved with the a/c.
I remember going to Inverness Airport to view and possibly get a trial flight in the ARV2, which might replace the 2 C152s used for training. After a while a phone call came cancelling the event due to low cloud in the Borders. It was a beautiful day at Inverness, and the lack of planning didn't Impress us.
(Don't think he 'got on' with the then airport director, a retired Air Commodore.)
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Funny old thing, a chap turned up last weekend for a trial flight he got as a birthday gift ....
And his summer job at university was in Hamilton, designing the engine mount for the Rotax 912 on the ARV!
Showed him an old mount for a C42 and he was thinking it was a lot simpler than what he had come up with :-)
(he went south and worked for Slingsby on the Firefly and then went offshore)
And his summer job at university was in Hamilton, designing the engine mount for the Rotax 912 on the ARV!
Showed him an old mount for a C42 and he was thinking it was a lot simpler than what he had come up with :-)
(he went south and worked for Slingsby on the Firefly and then went offshore)
