2018 Light Aircraft Association AGM award vote
Looks like a good plan, most threads eventually "run out of steam" as people move on to other topics.
Some times long dormant threads can be revived if a new piece of information comes to light.
Some times long dormant threads can be revived if a new piece of information comes to light.
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I for one am immensely relieved that it is all over and absolutely delighted that she made the right decision about terminating her membership !
I found the 2016 AGM to be a bit intimidating , when as Barry Tempest's seconder we were placed in a room packed to beyond capacity , with many of the occupants fairly obviously being Tracey supporters . Had I known then the devious 'plan B' she was cooking up , I think I would've run a bloody mile.
I was approached in private regarding this years AGM and asked whether I would wish to stand up and say some words to counter the two motions being proposed by Mr S. Jackson and Mr D. Mole , but with view to the fact that there are still one or two Tracey supporters out there who didn't like the fact that Barry and I brought this up originally , I politely declined .
Luckily , I was rostered to work yesterday [AGM day] and took great satisfaction that a Barbados bound A330 and a Florida bound B.747 were heading off across the pond at AGM time , both with my signature on their respective CRS's and I also had made a further contribution to aviation by sending my proxy votes of definite 'NO's' in 10 days previously . So altogether a very fulfilling day .
Despite Curtis-Taylors shameful conduct , both before the AGM and after , I don't believe that any of it will have the slightest effect on the LAA and what it is here to do . It has after all been doing its wonderful work for 70yrs ! The bigoted , misogynist thing just shows her for the one trick pony that she is . Attempting to discredit ones adversaries is just about the oldest trick in the book !
The reason that there are less female pilots/engineers is simply because many females are not that interested in that type of thing . But for the ones who are , the prospects are limitless and the opportunities are many.
The last thing that the genuine and professional world of aviation needs , is some ranting , raving freeloader bluffing her way through by pretending that 'us girls' are all being discriminated against .
It's a high pressure sales-pitch for an imagined commodity that doesn't exist !
Hey Pilot DAR,,,,don't forget what happened the last time it all went quiet ......[:lol]
I found the 2016 AGM to be a bit intimidating , when as Barry Tempest's seconder we were placed in a room packed to beyond capacity , with many of the occupants fairly obviously being Tracey supporters . Had I known then the devious 'plan B' she was cooking up , I think I would've run a bloody mile.
I was approached in private regarding this years AGM and asked whether I would wish to stand up and say some words to counter the two motions being proposed by Mr S. Jackson and Mr D. Mole , but with view to the fact that there are still one or two Tracey supporters out there who didn't like the fact that Barry and I brought this up originally , I politely declined .
Luckily , I was rostered to work yesterday [AGM day] and took great satisfaction that a Barbados bound A330 and a Florida bound B.747 were heading off across the pond at AGM time , both with my signature on their respective CRS's and I also had made a further contribution to aviation by sending my proxy votes of definite 'NO's' in 10 days previously . So altogether a very fulfilling day .
Despite Curtis-Taylors shameful conduct , both before the AGM and after , I don't believe that any of it will have the slightest effect on the LAA and what it is here to do . It has after all been doing its wonderful work for 70yrs ! The bigoted , misogynist thing just shows her for the one trick pony that she is . Attempting to discredit ones adversaries is just about the oldest trick in the book !
The reason that there are less female pilots/engineers is simply because many females are not that interested in that type of thing . But for the ones who are , the prospects are limitless and the opportunities are many.
The last thing that the genuine and professional world of aviation needs , is some ranting , raving freeloader bluffing her way through by pretending that 'us girls' are all being discriminated against .
It's a high pressure sales-pitch for an imagined commodity that doesn't exist !
Hey Pilot DAR,,,,don't forget what happened the last time it all went quiet ......[:lol]
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We must give credit to Pprune Towers and the mods on here without whom this sad saga would never have seen the light of day.
The LAA and Flyer Forum have locked any further discussion.
A sad reflection on how some want to stifle discussion especially when it involves the UK’s only grass roots flying organisation.
In my opinion the time has come to dump old fashioned royal patrons such as Prince Michael and his blazer brigade.
Prince Harry or William are true pilots and better examples of public service leadership.
The LAA and Flyer Forum have locked any further discussion.
A sad reflection on how some want to stifle discussion especially when it involves the UK’s only grass roots flying organisation.
In my opinion the time has come to dump old fashioned royal patrons such as Prince Michael and his blazer brigade.
Prince Harry or William are true pilots and better examples of public service leadership.
To be fair, the Prince didn't put his name on the motions, but stayed aloof: letting the LAA due processes work their way through.
I really didn't see as a patron how he could take sides, nor without being able by protocol to answer every innuendo. In cases like this he is is a vulnerable sitting target.
Unless you REALLY know different ?
mike hallam.
I really didn't see as a patron how he could take sides, nor without being able by protocol to answer every innuendo. In cases like this he is is a vulnerable sitting target.
Unless you REALLY know different ?
mike hallam.
We must give credit to Pprune Towers and the mods on here without whom this sad saga would never have seen the light of day.
The LAA and Flyer Forum have locked any further discussion.
A sad reflection on how some want to stifle discussion especially when it involves the UK’s only grass roots flying organisation.
In my opinion the time has come to dump old fashioned royal patrons such as Prince Michael and his blazer brigade.
Prince Harry or William are true pilots and better examples of public service leadership.
The LAA and Flyer Forum have locked any further discussion.
A sad reflection on how some want to stifle discussion especially when it involves the UK’s only grass roots flying organisation.
In my opinion the time has come to dump old fashioned royal patrons such as Prince Michael and his blazer brigade.
Prince Harry or William are true pilots and better examples of public service leadership.
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I think the LAA just want to draw a line under it all and move on with what they do best.
As for the Flyer forum, I just think they have had enough of the constantly repeated posts
As for the Flyer forum, I just think they have had enough of the constantly repeated posts
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As one female resigns from the LAA, another one joins...
I've been meaning to join for ages but thanks to all this publicity I've finally been prompted into doing it! My small contribution to help push the gender/age stats in the other direction
I've been meaning to join for ages but thanks to all this publicity I've finally been prompted into doing it! My small contribution to help push the gender/age stats in the other direction
We must give credit to Pprune Towers and the mods on here without whom this sad saga would never have seen the light of da
The LAA and Flyer Forum have locked any further discussion.
A sad reflection on how some want to stifle discussion especially when it involves the UK’s only grass roots flying organisation.
In my opinion the time has come to dump old fashioned royal patrons such as Prince Michael and his blazer brigade.
Prince Harry or William are true pilots and better examples of public service leadership.
The LAA and Flyer Forum have locked any further discussion.
A sad reflection on how some want to stifle discussion especially when it involves the UK’s only grass roots flying organisation.
In my opinion the time has come to dump old fashioned royal patrons such as Prince Michael and his blazer brigade.
Prince Harry or William are true pilots and better examples of public service leadership.
I do not understand why the thread on the LAA forum cannot stay open. Seems open discussion is not welcome within the Association.
Wonder what they have to hide?. Move on .... yes. Stifle discussion ....no. Well done to Pprune. Lets hope everyone plays by the rules so the mods do not have cause to lock these threads. They will eventually slow down as folk do move on.
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I’ve followed this sad saga since it started and I have on occasion contributed to the discussions. I feel that the defeat of the motions was the desirable outcome for the LAA, but I would be interested to hear a summary of what transpired at the AGM. Were there speeches for and against the motions and if so, who made them? Did TCT participate? Were there any objections on procedural grounds?
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I’ve followed this sad saga since it started and I have on occasion contributed to the discussions. I feel that the defeat of the motions was the desirable outcome for the LAA, but I would be interested to hear a summary of what transpired at the AGM. Were there speeches for and against the motions and if so, who made them? Did TCT participate? Were there any objections on procedural grounds?
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I see that the good lady continues her rant post the LAA AGM, on line in the Telegraph today.
"Pointing to a photo of her 1941 Ryan Recruit, the prototype of a trainer aeroplane from World War Two, aviator Tracey Curtis-Taylor is grim-faced. “I’ll be removing that aircraft from the British register because of the way I’ve been treated,” she fumes. “I’m washing my hands and walking away.”
The self-styled “Bird in a Biplane” has been the subject of contention among Britain’s Light Aircraft Association (LAA), which last weekend stripped her for good of a prestigious award she received in 2014 after an expedition from Cape Town to Goodwood in a vintage carrier.
Curtis-Taylor, 56, says she is the victim of a group of bitter and misogynistic trolls who waged an aggressive campaign to undermine... etc.etc"
"Pointing to a photo of her 1941 Ryan Recruit, the prototype of a trainer aeroplane from World War Two, aviator Tracey Curtis-Taylor is grim-faced. “I’ll be removing that aircraft from the British register because of the way I’ve been treated,” she fumes. “I’m washing my hands and walking away.”
The self-styled “Bird in a Biplane” has been the subject of contention among Britain’s Light Aircraft Association (LAA), which last weekend stripped her for good of a prestigious award she received in 2014 after an expedition from Cape Town to Goodwood in a vintage carrier.
Curtis-Taylor, 56, says she is the victim of a group of bitter and misogynistic trolls who waged an aggressive campaign to undermine... etc.etc"
Every time this sordid affair dies a death, she brings it back to life with more deceit.
Her detractors’ gripe is that she has been feted for flying solo when in fact guests joined her on board during the Africa trip.
Guests? That's for the very few local flights when Ewald (20K+ hour flight instructor) wasn't up front. She's incorrigible.
I want to see the lawyers letters she had written to the LAA - anyone else interested?
Her detractors’ gripe is that she has been feted for flying solo when in fact guests joined her on board during the Africa trip.
Guests? That's for the very few local flights when Ewald (20K+ hour flight instructor) wasn't up front. She's incorrigible.
I want to see the lawyers letters she had written to the LAA - anyone else interested?
Welcome to the LAA 'Littlest Hobo'.
My partner, a lady who is an enthusiastic pilot , notes she has had nothing but support and encouragement from the LAA itself and its members. She hasn't encountered any notable male bias.
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My partner, a lady who is an enthusiastic pilot , notes she has had nothing but support and encouragement from the LAA itself and its members. She hasn't encountered any notable male bias.
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Yet again the article and the sycophantic comments completely miss the deception. Because she is an expert at this type of PR, once again she steers it to 'trolling' and 'misogyny'. Wouldn't it be nice, for once, to have a piece which stated, 'She said it would be solo, she continued to say it was solo and only changed her tune when caught out'?
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I received this PM today and publish without revealing the sender and have censored the names of those mentioned below.
(Happy to share the original PM with the mods)
It is more than I can stand to see this woman continue to successfully manipulate a succession of journalists (the Telegraph yesterday being the latest) Unfortunately I do not have any credentials as a female pilot so I do not feel that anything I say carries much weight. And TCT has used that tool of crying "sexism" to silence all males on this subject. I am wondering if you know any who would be prepared to come out and avow that TCT is the very last female to be held up as a role model for young women. I have a close friend who has known TCT for a very long time. The irony of a woman whose access to aviation has come through being the "partner" of rich men - first of all XXX who bought her her Ryan and then XXX who funded the Stearman - who has not actually earned her own living for decades, and who can only fly anywhere far afield without her hand being held by a man, being held up as a feminist icon is just UNBEARABLE!!!
Please, please - if you know any female pilots - can you persuade one of them to come out and object to this cmplete travesty?
Please, please - if you know any female pilots - can you persuade one of them to come out and object to this cmplete travesty?
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