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Old 24th May 2018, 06:55
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-3 to strake
I've been flying since 1983 and these are the first points I've ever had deducted....I'll come to terms with it.
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Old 24th May 2018, 07:04
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No interception or ditching? Did you end up spending the 10K EUR cash?

Great to hear you had fun, please do tell everyone that it is very, very easy...

Safe flights, Sam.
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Old 24th May 2018, 07:10
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I've been flying since 1983 and these are the first points I've ever had deducted....I'll come to terms with it.
I've been flying since 1988 and these are the first points I've ever deducted from strake.

And this is the best he/she has taken it!
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Old 24th May 2018, 13:49
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I've been flying since 1983 and these are the first points I've ever had deducted....I'll come to terms with it.
Here, have 3 of mine; I'm still up on the deal.
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Old 24th May 2018, 15:48
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Here, have 3 of mine; I'm still up on the deal.
My dear fellow, uncommon decent of you..! Should you find yourself flying into SW France (La Rochelle/Bordeaux corridor) do drop a PM - happy to assist with any planning etc.
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Old 24th May 2018, 18:29
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Y'know, this sort of dedication to duty isn't exactly at the forefront of your average French foncs mentality....the majority of aircraft and pilots coming from the UK are regular visitors and welcomed as such.
File a flight plan, head south and enjoy the trip.
Try that at Le Touquet when Emmanuel and Briggite are staying at Villa Monéjan and it could spoil more than your lunch.
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Old 24th May 2018, 19:54
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Try that at Le Touquet when Emmanuel and Briggite are staying at Villa Monéjan and it could spoil more than your lunch.
If you think the five policemen who guard the property (next to the casino which welcomes tens of thousands every month) give a monkey's uncle about a few Brit's landing in Le Touquet, then paranoia has really taken hold.
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Old 24th May 2018, 21:20
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I am not talking about the policemen outside his house, but the douaniers at the airport. When he is in town checks are more thorough than usual and they tick names of the list of notified arrivals. There is no mucking about and it is not only foreign arrivals and departures they check. As for paranoia, it would take a lot more than a document check to worry someone who has spent most of his life in South America, where police are not necessarily associated with safety or security.
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 02:01
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Its an easy trip. Ostende is recommended. Schipol is now too expensive for this kind of trip sadly but I did that as a PPL training cross country when it was about 50 guilders landing fee. calais is also easy (but mind the prohibited zone near the airport) .

the essentials checklist =

flight plan both ways
GAR for coming back , with sufficent notice ( can file before you leave in fact) plus customs notification on return ( part of GAR process) .don't have to use on line form, can just do by email.
interception procedures copy
passport
evidence of VAT paid/free circulation of the aircraft
aircraft docs
pliot licence/medical/passport
PLB or ELT depending on state of registration
notification to the customs at airport of entry withing their notice requirements
flotation devices
fuel drawback/date of last foreign trip the a/c made - not required but obviously worth having
mode s transponder where required by countries/airspace visited

weather both ways/outlook for later/alternates that don't need prior notification....


Hope that helps. Its no harder than any other flight except the GAR form / customs notifications really.
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 08:37
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Originally Posted by custardpsc View Post
Its an easy trip. Ostende is recommended. Schipol is now too expensive for this kind of trip sadly but I did that as a PPL training cross country when it was about 50 guilders landing fee. calais is also easy (but mind the prohibited zone near the airport) .

the essentials checklist =

flight plan both ways
GAR for coming back , with sufficent notice ( can file before you leave in fact) plus customs notification on return ( part of GAR process) .don't have to use on line form, can just do by email.
interception procedures copy
passport
evidence of VAT paid/free circulation of the aircraft
aircraft docs
pliot licence/medical/passport
PLB or ELT depending on state of registration
notification to the customs at airport of entry withing their notice requirements
flotation devices
fuel drawback/date of last foreign trip the a/c made - not required but obviously worth having
mode s transponder where required by countries/airspace visited

weather both ways/outlook for later/alternates that don't need prior notification....


Hope that helps. Its no harder than any other flight except the GAR form / customs notifications really.
10/10 for custardpsc!
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 10:44
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I've crossed the water a couple of times in my Supercub, that was about thirty years ago! but I did talk to the controller after taking off from the UK, and asked him nicely if I could fly as high as possible....he made no objection, so I crossed at 10,000 feet, and figured even if the engine stopped, I could glide down one way or the other. Have any of you asked for higher altitude for a crossing?
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 18:45
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All seems like overkill to me.

Send the flight plan the night before.

Get in your plane and go.

If you want to fly high do so - I like to be at around 8,500 when going up north - good to know that instead of being 150 miles from land that I can glide and only have to swim 135

Always fascinated by the tales of daring do crossing the channel - not a flying challenge more one of dealing with the paperwork.

Here my international flights (bear in mind I have to register a local flight plan just to fly in the circuit), is weather (either brillian or hurricane!), a flight plan, eAPIS, Ayscuda, half a dozen gendecs - take the gendecs to the customs with the Ayscuda - first time was a nightmare - now it does smoothly - the flying a hundred miles from land is not an issue - when anyone comes here and rents my airplane they seem very intimidated by the paperwork, but do it once and it's easy - the flying part is always the easy bit; going with someone else doing the paperwork the first time is proably best.

Oddly on the way back it seems weather and a flight plan s the order of the day - try to do the eAPRIS if I can get access, usually can't, no need for an Ayscuda (think it is a commercial thing, but here they have us all get one)

It seems fearless private flying long distances in light airplanes is a thing of the past - was reading an article a few months back people with biplanes in the early 1930's flying to Poland for a picnic.
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