UKGA magazine classified adverts scam
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There’s always some bar steward trying to pull a scam, the worlds full of them nowadays. If they put as much effort into grafting that they do scamming they’d be doing alright.
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Welcome macancan, I'm happy to hear that PPRuNe has helped a fellow flier, in a simple and useful way! You'll find a wealth of other wisdom here!
"Confucius say "on discovering evidence that indicates an active fraud, call the Police".
Not if you're in Scotland.
I did so, after being given a German phone number, and with the scammer unaware I'd detected him.
I was asked how much I'd lost, then told as I hadn't lost anything, they weren't interested.
AFORS was very quick in removing the advert.
The sum was 5 figure.
Not if you're in Scotland.
I did so, after being given a German phone number, and with the scammer unaware I'd detected him.
I was asked how much I'd lost, then told as I hadn't lost anything, they weren't interested.
AFORS was very quick in removing the advert.
The sum was 5 figure.
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Slight thread drift...
When I bought my airplane I flew from where I am now based to Gamston with a friend to pick it up, I phoned my bank while sitting at a table outside the cafe with the seller and the bank called me back a few minutes later to authenticate the request. And then we waited for the CHAPS payment to arrive at the seller’s bank so I could fly home (my friend now having departed already), We waited some more. And some more. Until eventually with darkening skies approaching the seller told me to take the aitplane as the money was bound to turn up soon. After getting home I got a call from the seller saying the money hadn’t arrived. The bank payment desk now closed, I said I would call them in the morning. My bank confirmed payment had been sent and gave me the reference number for the seller but his bank confirmed no receipt. And so this went on for two days by which time it was now a bank holiday weekend. I had some guy’s pride and joy which was now in engineering having the radios stripped out and upgraded (not at my home base to add to the confusion) and the money I had paid the guy was seemingly lost. We were both quite concerned by now and he even threatened to call the police thinking he had been scammed. After the long weekend, my bank called to say they had screwed up and it got sorted out next day but I really felt for the other guy as he had been very trusting to let a complete stranger just fly off into the sunset with his airplane and log books. Not sure I would have done the same :-)
When I bought my airplane I flew from where I am now based to Gamston with a friend to pick it up, I phoned my bank while sitting at a table outside the cafe with the seller and the bank called me back a few minutes later to authenticate the request. And then we waited for the CHAPS payment to arrive at the seller’s bank so I could fly home (my friend now having departed already), We waited some more. And some more. Until eventually with darkening skies approaching the seller told me to take the aitplane as the money was bound to turn up soon. After getting home I got a call from the seller saying the money hadn’t arrived. The bank payment desk now closed, I said I would call them in the morning. My bank confirmed payment had been sent and gave me the reference number for the seller but his bank confirmed no receipt. And so this went on for two days by which time it was now a bank holiday weekend. I had some guy’s pride and joy which was now in engineering having the radios stripped out and upgraded (not at my home base to add to the confusion) and the money I had paid the guy was seemingly lost. We were both quite concerned by now and he even threatened to call the police thinking he had been scammed. After the long weekend, my bank called to say they had screwed up and it got sorted out next day but I really felt for the other guy as he had been very trusting to let a complete stranger just fly off into the sunset with his airplane and log books. Not sure I would have done the same :-)
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Sorry to hear that. Did you complain to the Procurator?
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My point is to report. Our local Police tell us that intelligence gathering through such reports is vital. As the new Head of Counter Terrorism has just echoed.
If you suffered no loss, then at least you may have an "I told you so" moment.
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My point is to report. Our local Police tell us that intelligence gathering through such reports is vital. As the new Head of Counter Terrorism has just echoed.
If you suffered no loss, then at least you may have an "I told you so" moment.
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Sorry to hear that. Did you complain to the Procurator?
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My point is to report. Our local Police tell us that intelligence gathering through such reports is vital. As the new Head of Counter Terrorism has just echoed.
If you suffered no loss, then at least you may have an "I told you so" moment.
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My point is to report. Our local Police tell us that intelligence gathering through such reports is vital. As the new Head of Counter Terrorism has just echoed.
If you suffered no loss, then at least you may have an "I told you so" moment.
My experience of trying to report similar in the UK - I was asked how much I had lost; when I said nothing they wern't interested and would not take a report.
The website acted to remove the fraudulent advert, but the "fraud line" were a waste of the cost of a telephone call.
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I was also caught by Dan Schofield last year! Yep, I made the same mistakes and regret it now but I filed a claim with Action Fraud (Crime ref 655272617). Although I didnt hear back to begin with, this morning I received an email from the Police stating they had interviewed our Mr Schofield and to prosecute they would need a few more details.
If anyone has been scammed, or nearly scammed by Mr Schofield, then please either contact Action Fraud and state the crime ref number or message me on pprune and I can pass on the details of the Investigating team directly.
We stand a reasonble chance of stopping this chap from scamming others.
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If anyone has been scammed, or nearly scammed by Mr Schofield, then please either contact Action Fraud and state the crime ref number or message me on pprune and I can pass on the details of the Investigating team directly.
We stand a reasonble chance of stopping this chap from scamming others.
Thanks
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Sent a message - he got hundreds from me and I assume many others, wonder how much - but getting my money back somehow someday would be good either way.
How very odd that he used the same name when doing these scams.
How very odd that he used the same name when doing these scams.
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"No, they were trying to scam users of my web site."
"So you yourself personally haven't actually lost anything and aren't actually a victim of a crime?"
"No, but ..."
"Bye."
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"Are you the victim?"
"No, they were trying to scam users of my web site."
"So you yourself personally haven't actually lost anything and aren't actually a victim of a crime?"
"No, but ..."
"Bye."
"No, they were trying to scam users of my web site."
"So you yourself personally haven't actually lost anything and aren't actually a victim of a crime?"
"No, but ..."
"Bye."
"No but I've just seen someone trying to sell drugs"
"So you yourself havn't lost anything & havn't been offered any drugs ?"
"No, but..."
"Bye."
Is that likely ? I suspect not - but they're both crimes - can't help thinking if I was brushed off like that, I would escalate my report to a more senior officer :-(
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Hmm ... "Are you the victim?"
"No but I've just seen someone trying to sell drugs"
"So you yourself havn't lost anything & havn't been offered any drugs ?"
"No, but..."
"Bye."
Is that likely ? I suspect not - but they're both crimes - can't help thinking if I was brushed off like that, I would escalate my report to a more senior officer :-(
"No but I've just seen someone trying to sell drugs"
"So you yourself havn't lost anything & havn't been offered any drugs ?"
"No, but..."
"Bye."
Is that likely ? I suspect not - but they're both crimes - can't help thinking if I was brushed off like that, I would escalate my report to a more senior officer :-(
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Update - got a letter via my bank from the Met Police, all the way out here is sunny Barbados - seems that, yes, they have caught Mr. Schofield - just did a statement and seems he is to be prosecuted - oddly the form asked if I would be a witness, seems rather pointless to spend a few thousand in travel costs in pursuit of a few hundred.
Nevertheless, it seems that they are interested and doing something, what that something is we will have to wait and see.
So all the not interested comments appear to have been off the mark.
Now let's talk about the two million stolen from me by Jered Kenna, but that's another story....................
Nevertheless, it seems that they are interested and doing something, what that something is we will have to wait and see.
So all the not interested comments appear to have been off the mark.
Now let's talk about the two million stolen from me by Jered Kenna, but that's another story....................
Just a slight warning about being a prosecution witness, you will end up scammed by the crown prosecution service. It seems that they have strict (woefully inadequate) payment limits on witness expenses. I was told to show up at a court 112 miles from home by 0930hrs on a day a couple of weeks ago. I was only given two days notice of this. Too late to get cheap train tickets booked so it was cheaper and easier to go by car. It seems that they will give a contribution towards refreshments of £9.75 per day if you are away from home for over 10 hours (I was, lunch cost me £12 and coffee on route a further £5.60). They only pay £0.25 per mile for private car use (even the tax man allows £0.45) and then they only pay £87.50 per day for loss of earnings for the self employed. The only thing they fully reimbursed is the car parking cost of £25. To make matters worse they messed up all of these figures except for the parking and paid less than the required amount for each of them. I rang and asked for a breakdown of the figures (the remittance advice just gives the total being paid) and they have adjusted all of the figures up to their limits putting another £58 something into my bank. That just leaves me about £150 out of pocket for the day. The only satisfactory thing about this is that they banged the accused up for 16 years.
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Hello one and all - thought you all may be interested in progress with this whole scam thing.
I just received a letter from the court in the UK, seems Mr Scofield was convicted - always nice.
Seems as well that he has to provide restitution - so my three hundred and fifty quid will be coming back to me - he pays the court and the court pay me - so he doesn't pay, contempt and prison - so maybe all will turn out ok.
Weird thing, his total take for his scam fifty one hundred pounds.
I bought a new US$ 248 ANR headset from Gulf Coast Aviation to replace my David Clark with the rotted plastic parts - the ANR is seriously impressive a 25% the cost of Boss so seems to be working out ok in the end
I just received a letter from the court in the UK, seems Mr Scofield was convicted - always nice.
Seems as well that he has to provide restitution - so my three hundred and fifty quid will be coming back to me - he pays the court and the court pay me - so he doesn't pay, contempt and prison - so maybe all will turn out ok.
Weird thing, his total take for his scam fifty one hundred pounds.
I bought a new US$ 248 ANR headset from Gulf Coast Aviation to replace my David Clark with the rotted plastic parts - the ANR is seriously impressive a 25% the cost of Boss so seems to be working out ok in the end
