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Old 8th Sep 2016, 12:55
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It's acceptable to answer a question with PASS. It's not Mastermind. There's nothing to be gained by answering GARBAGE.
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 14:57
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You asked, and you have been given 5 examples.

You are showing your inexperience if you cannot accept them.

And some here don't resort to shouting, even in the air.
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I've never used 1st stage for anything except take-off.
What is a "stage" of flap extension? The Piper manual, like all other GA aircraft flight manuals I know of, describe flap extension in degrees, which is the way flap extension limitations are expressed on the Type Certificate Data Sheet.

Flaps are a form of flying control, the pilot can use them within the limitations of the aircraft, to control the flight of the aircraft to their preference. There is no limitation, other than speed, on the extension of flaps in take off range, at any time in flight. (Yes, I know about the "avoid" with slips in a 172, that's not a limitation). Doing so can be useful for many reasons, including formation flying with a different type, photography, maneuvering, and flying more slowly in reduced visibility.
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Well, we've always called them stages of flap.....

The Archer flies nicely with a stage of flap at circa 85kts when in a relatively tight circuit pattern. Numerous times and places, I've put first stage in downwind on the Archer. Hardly ever do it in the Warrior.

At White Waltham last month, I had first stage in on the Archer immediately after levelling out on the deadside, just to keep speed and spacing from those ahead. It can be a slippery type to slow down in tight patterns.

Then on the other hand, hammering clean down finals at East Mids at 120kts to 2DME, kill the power, bang in the flaps and off at Sierra.

My experience is they both pitch up on flap selection. If you have the power set right (through experience of the specific a/c you are flying), it will quickly settle and down you go without any nose down trim to force it on it's way.

As previously stated, it is very much horses for courses based on the situation you find yourself in. And flying is never based on a one size fits all approach.

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Old 8th Sep 2016, 17:03
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2You are showing your inexperience if you cannot accept them.

Admittedly, I have only around 800 hrs on the PA28 range. About half that on the PA32.
The majority of my experience has been on other types. I'll just keep plugging away.
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Has the lift drag ratio got anything to do with thee difference in pitch change?
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