megan

Amen, and neither of the occupants had watched the video.

megapete

I am no longer a pilot but have been following this thread for a while as I think it shows an interesting manipulation of the media, particularly wikipedia and urge anyone who has not done so to read the talk page of her wiki (just select the talk tab at the top of the page) to see how information has been ruthlessly suppressed.
Anyone who has done media training will know that when talking to the media you never actually answer the questions unless you want to - instead you should use the opportunity to say the things that you want to say. If really pressed then you need to have some “lines to take” which everyone in your team (if you have one) regurgitates ad nauseam.
As the saga has unfolded it is becoming clearer that the following are some of her “lines to take”.
Q) Wasn’t the trip supposed to be solo?
A) There was always going to be a support team and another aircraft to do the filming - I was never going to do this on my own. (Note this answer doesn’t answer the question at all !)
Q) You have been pictured by a slide at a presentation stating that you were alone in a cockpit when you weren’t.
A) The slide doesn’t refer to my flight but that of lady Heath.
Q) You have been filmed saying your flight was solo .
A) A slip of the tongue .
As some of these lines are better than others you should spend as much time as possible talking about the strong ones and as little time as possible on the weak ones.
When you start looking it is easy to see how “fake news” is spread - modern media is incredibly susceptible to manipulation and even if you can see it being done it is next to impossible to correct it - again see the wiki talk page.

clareprop

megapete

Her Wikipedia page is indeed farcical and I think knowledgeable people have long since given up trying to change it. What I find strange is that for every question you showed, there is cast-iron evidence from numerous sources showing the actual truth - the slip of the tongue that was actually two (very confidently stated) slips of the tongue. The archived pages from her Facebook account and website along with hundreds of interviews (including one with pilotweb) where she either states she is going (or went solo) or, she does not dispel the statement. The picture of her accepting an award which has solo written on it and of course, the slide which is so obviously her trip even though she still uses the lamest of explanations to try and rid herself of it..
Yet....show all that to some people and they would prefer to believe C-T is the one being wronged. Whether it's because they don't wish to admit they have been hoodwinked or the shutters have come down, I don't know. What I do know is that in the end, as Mr Armstrong found out, cheats never prosper. The problem is, they hurt other more deserving people along the way and that alone is why C-T should not get away with this deceit.

Reverserbucket

I have occasional involvement with modern media (aviation related and otherwise). My view is that very few in the industry, including those who specialise in a particular field, have much understanding of any technical detail or feel for whether or not an interviewee is telling the truth or attempting to manipulate. All the writer is interested in is whether they can take anything away from it and produce an article of a pre-ordained word count and if there's anything the slightest bit provocative or sensational, all the better. The press (and other media) used to be a mechanism for communicating news and selling advertising whereas today it's nothing more than an inexpensive marketing tool for those seeking greater exposure outside of their normal coverage. Most people who read about this sort of thing couldn't care less, 'today's news, tomorrows fish and chip paper' etc., and on the whole, I'd say most writers couldn't care either. There's practically never any follow up to 'a story' or published item and frankly I suspect little appetite for it and to a certain extent, that has worked in the favour of this individual - most of what you read about her is 'new' i.e. not reporting but simply regurgitating what is fed to the press by her marketing agency/people/person. Did the Times follow up the story I believe they published concerning the LAA and removal of the Bill Woodham Trophy with a bit of insightful investigative journalism? No, of course not, there was always going to be something more interesting to write about, hence her story about being a victim of prejudice from male pilots in September. I'd be very surprised if the writer approached her for that first. Besides, she thinks she's establishment doesn't she? Different rules and all that.

Above The Clouds

I can guarantee that you cannot act as a crew member on a Russian registered aircraft without a Russian licence and medical. In the video below she says she is waiting in Kiev for the AN2 to arrive so she could join the aircraft, probably because she would not have been allowed onboard while in Russia.


Quoted from her own website.
Tracey Curtis Taylor - Aviatrix, Adventurer, Inspirational Speaker

This picture among the other pictures of the Russian AN2 going to Cape Town is an AN2 that is described on her own website Tracey Curtis Taylor - Aviatrix, Adventurer, Inspirational Speaker as "Tracey piloting an AN2 in Hungary on a training flight in 2012" but it is conveniently placed giving the impression she was flying the Russian AN2.



I think her logbook would make very interesting reading.

B70

Tracey is rather keen on having her photograph taken, but the photo of her behind the controls of the AN2 doesn't mean that she can fly it ........... any more than the Facebook photo of her straddling a Royal Enfield means that she can ride a motorbike.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY

I have a picture somewhere of me sitting in an F1 car.
When asked if I drove it I can simply say " I was trying to emulate Lewis Hamilton" ; my F1 knowledgeable friends will know I did not drive it, but the less knowledgeable will go away BELIEVING I did.

Let's see what Sunday brings unless of course more tales of deception, news pieces or radio interviews come to light. I have faith that the LAA will make the right decision for the right reasons.
I am certainly looking forward to the next film - wonder if we'll get a mention in the closing credits.

Above The Clouds

The reason I mentioned in my post above that her logbook could making interesting reading would be to clarify if and how she had logged any flying hours in the Russian registered AN2.

Because not only would she need to hold a Russian licence and medical to start thinking about flying one, she would also need an AN2 type rating as under the Russian rules an AN2 is actually a two crew certified aircraft, unless of course one of the Russian pilots was an instructor and she logged anything as P/UT but would need to hold that Russian licence to be under instruction.

Mike Flynn

piperboy84

So there you have it folks.No answers due to what appears to a perceived notion about forum text limitations, so if you really want to hear the straight dope on the flights directly from the horses mouth, you have to buy the book. Get your £19.95 out!

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by Tracey Curtis-Taylor » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:01 am

Here are the reasons why I’m not answering insistent questions about my flights.
1. There is too much to say for a chat forum. They’re a chapter in the book when I finish it.
2. Anyone who can’t wait could contact me, although it does seem that the obsessive few don’t seek answers, but rather fuel for their indignation.
3. They are irrelevant to the 2018 motions, which in different ways seek to redress the irrelevance of the 2016 motion. Even if I were the self-promoting charlatan that some think I am, there was absolutely no evidence that this brought the LAA ‘into disrepute’. I did not solicit the 2014 Woodhams Award (relating to one flight only) and – though honoured to receive it – I did not promote myself on the back of either the award or of my membership of the LAA. Whatever they thought (if anything) of me, neither the general public nor the aviation world thought any differently about the LAA. The only people shouting about it were Sam Rutherford and his associates. The premise of the 2016 motion was nonsense and The LAA Board was unwise to blunder into a campaign of what was – dress it up as you may – personal vilification."

airpolice

I know this will seem like I am being picky, but...

She calls herself, Commander.

Anyone in the RN looking for a similar promotion should take note, you just give it to yourself, regardless of what the Admiralty have to say about it.

She's had since July 2016 to fix this, and still not done so.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY

Just a typo Airpolice, I bet the book will be full of them.

I am looking forward to the book, hopefully it will answer some of the many queries I have listed over the years.
Hopefully it will detail all the little anomalies we have found over the years. Like the little diversion into Baragwanath to drop Ewald off so you could fly into the press-packed airfield on your own, will it explain why Ewald wasn't with you when leaving Farnborough but you met up with him not long after over in France - out of sight of the cameras? Will it explain why weeks later you chose to continue from Indonesia without your chase plane which you say was impounded but Ewald says it had ended its task and was returning home? As a matter of interest why was it impounded? Will it explain some past history? ie why you have left various places under a cloud (the metaphorical type not the literal fluffy ones because you don't fly IFR). Hopefully it will be littered with great images of all the warbird aircraft you have displayed in and the military pilots that trained you so well (I may know some of them ;-) )

Should make for good reading.

Cazalet33

Thanks for that link, Genghis. It's really quite exemplary and is highly relevant to this topic.

It is so refreshing to see that a light aircraft really can be flown SOLO, long distance, without lies and without any cheatery.

Solo, in this context, means one person aboard the aircraft, one pilot.

Very different to the mendacity and ego-pumping of the near-fraudulent commercial hype of Curtis-Taylor.

Also, interesting that the G-GBNZ flight makes no big deal about whether the pilot is male or female. 90 years ago that was a big deal. In the 21st century it just ain't.

Also interesting to see that those promoting the thing as promoting STEM actually are genuinely qualified in Science, Technology Engineering and Mathematics. Again, very different to Curtis-Taylor. In her scheme the only person with STEM qualifications was systematically airbrushed out of the scene on all three of her charades.

Edited to add that:
It's also notable that Wing Commanders Pote and Gatland don't posture themselves as Group Captains and Squadron Leader Landy doesn't pose as a Wing Commander. They're just not the type of people who would do such a thing.

kirkbymoorside

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY

Worth listening to. A recent interview,
Not knowing the back story this is a very entertaining and passionate interview, very convincing.

Obviously the pre-chat off air must have had the warning "don't mention solo. "

It is very easy to see why so many have been taken in.

Listen and be educated. https://soundcloud.com/user-603229904/women-making-waves-tracey-curtis-taylor
linky link

Right Hand Thread

9 lives

Well... it is possible to have garbage in the carburettor which is not fuel contamination. That's invariably a maintenance issue, I wonder of the maintainer of the aircraft was asked about it?

That said, if Tracey was a part of the "we", I hope that the NTSB was another part of the we, or what were Tracey and her "we" doing taking apart an accident carburettor outside the participation of the NTSB? Presuming that the NTSB were a part of the "we", would they have seen the garbage too? I would think that they would have mentioned if they had...

Hadley Rille

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Hadley Rille

Tracey was the Execujet second co-pilot on the AN2.
http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/real-economy-report-2013-03-20/rep_id:4433

In the video the AN2 flight was a practice run for her solo flight from Cape to Cambridge

megan

Given the in-exactitude of TC-T's use of the English language the question remains, was she legally a co-pilot?