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Old 10th Oct 2018, 21:29
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So glad about the compass, although it clearly cannot have been that reliable
Those GNS 430 compasses are notoriously unreliable........
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 21:50
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Those GNS 430 compasses are notoriously unreliable........
Certainly a couple of individuals need to be seeking a refund on their GNS 430 Moral Compasses, and reading the LAA posts I do not refer just to TCT. There was obviously a bad batch. sold before 2013.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 14:24
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06nkhpr
Sorry to subject you to this.

Listen to more lies.

Apparently the ALONE in an open cockpit slide refers to Mary Heath - LIE - it is TCT's route.
We are on air as "internet trolls"
Apparently they tried to correct the press and SOLO statements
She says the Winslow crash WAS filmed. Why was this not submitted to NTSB.
She says she has tried to resolve issues with the LAA but these meetings were blocked.
Playing the sexism card again.
Wants to do Capetown to Alaska in the future.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 14:54
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Listen to more lies.
You can contact the program makers on the link below and tell them....I have.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04kfzn3/contact

The bit that really riled me was where she asked why it took so long for anything to be said. Sam has always made it very clear that he was prepared to go along with the spin for the sake of the program but when T C-T started getting awards for going solo, he put his foot down. Until there is an adversarial article or interview where both sides are questioned, non-flying journalists will keep getting the wool pulled over their eyes.

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She's writing a book too...!
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 15:14
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As all of us have been branded internet trolls, and I think she gave sufficient information to identify who she was talking about, I think that any of us could ask the BBC for a right of reply.
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Originally Posted by clareprop
Mr Bremner, as others have said, it is indeed good of you to join in the discussion. I think many here would accept that you may not have been aware of the full background of the grievance pilots have with this story. Your views on the following would go a long way to clarifying this:




https://youtu.be/VZD6IsGmGgw
I post again the infamous slide which says “7,000 miles in 32 legs over 6 weeks, alone in an open cock-pit plane” because it had some prominence in the interview. TCT described it as “ambiguous” and in fact refers to the flight of Lady Mary Heath. I have been having this discussion in private but now deserves a wider audience after the interview. Lady Mary planned to take 3 weeks but actually took 4 months if you measure from the ceremonial departure or 3 months if you measure from the actual departure. Anyone dreaming of emulating Lady Mary Heath would know this. Are we then to suppose that this is some sort of hybrid statement mixing elements of Lady Mary’s flight withTCT’s flight. That wouldn’t make any sense because Lady Mary is not mentioned at all.
I posted earlier about peeling away layers. This was a perfect opportunity for TCT to give a completely honest representation of her adventures but instead she admits some untruths that she can’t get away with whilst maintaining some that she thinks that she can. I am not a troll, I am someone who believes that the public should be able to rely on what they read and hear in the media and I am prepared to justify my statements if anyone wants to PM me.

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Old 11th Oct 2018, 16:48
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So according to TC-T's interview today, the way we should understand

"7000 miles in 32 legs over 6 weeks, alone in an open cock-pit plane."

is - "I am planning 7000 miles in 32 legs over 6 weeks, Lady Heath was alone in an open cock-pit plane [over 3 months]"

Obvious......
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 16:59
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I am not sure where this saga will end but if she tries to blame the press I would remind her of Jonathan Aitkins famous quote.

“'If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight,”.


I look forward to her film and book.

On a positive note she comes across as well spoken person who could do a lot if she only dropped the obsession with her image and self promotion.



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Originally Posted by Ant T
So according to TC-T's interview today, the way we should understand

"7000 miles in 32 legs over 6 weeks, alone in an open cock-pit plane."

is - "I am planning 7000 miles in 32 legs over 6 weeks, Lady Heath was alone in an open cock-pit plane [over 3 months]"

Obvious......
Also on that slide (not shown in your image but clear on others) it has the final destination of GOODWOOD. Lady Heath flew to CROYDON. I know TCT struggles with navigation, perhaps the root cause of this is her lack of geographical knowledge.
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First time I saw the notorious slide I wondered how long it would be before TCT argued that the slide referred to Lady Heath.

It’s taken a long time for her to clutch at this straw. Perhaps her teenage web page author spotted the ruse.
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What puzzles me is given the background of some of the leading lights at the top of the LAA tree they fail to see the evidence!
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If that slide is Lady Mary's journey, then the departure from Cape Town will say "January 1928".

It isn't very clear but I'm trying to make that date fit with the image, which looks to me as if the month as written is November.
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata
What puzzles me is given the background of some of the leading lights at the top of the LAA tree they fail to see the evidence!
There is an admirable desire to promote women in aviation but if the example to follow is adding embellishments to your cv. and taking delight in a cavalier attitude to flying then I am certain there are better women out there to promote.
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Originally Posted by hoodie
If that slide is Lady Mary's journey, then the departure from Cape Town will say "January 1928".

It isn't very clear but I'm trying to make that date fit with the image, which looks to me as if the month as written is November.
There must be better copies of the slide earlier in the thread. I picked up a copy that had already been reposted by clareprop.
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Originally Posted by runway30


There must be better copies of the slide earlier in the thread. I picked up a copy that had already been reposted by clareprop.
I sourced it from here which, nearly two and a half years on, still asks some very pertinent questions...

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...famous-flights

I wonder if John Michael Schneider, the journalist concerned, would be interested in an update...?
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Just listened to the T C-T radio interview ........and I have to say - she has some gall!

She appears to employ the "Trump" approach. Just lie, lie, lie and lie again until the lies become the facts and therefore she will be vindicated!

I do think the press are often complicit with false narratives due to their failure to really investigate, challenge and query assertions.
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Originally Posted by clareprop
I sourced it from here which, nearly two and a half years on, still asks some very pertinent questions...

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...famous-flights

I wonder if John Michael Schneider, the journalist concerned, would be interested in an update...?
Clare, this is the slide.


For the avoidance of doubt. Mary Heath flew a Boeing Stearman (top left logo), From Capetown to Goodwood over 7000 miles in 6 weeks (it must have taken her a further 6 weeks to get from Goodwood to Croydon then). Oh, not forgetting of course that Mary Heath set off on 1st November and her plane was secretly called the Spirit of Artemis.

All is clear now. Sorry Tracey for getting the wrong end of the stick on this: Do you think we are stupid?

My e-mail is satcoswhippingboy at gmail dot com

Drop me an e-mail, I will tell you who I am and you can try to sue me!!!
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Clare, this is the slide.
For the avoidance of doubt. Mary Heath flew a Boeing Stearman (top left logo), From Capetown to Goodwood over 7000 miles in 6 weeks (it must have taken her a further 6 weeks to get from Goodwood to Croydon then). Oh, not forgetting of course that Mary Heath set off on 1st November and her plane was secretly called the Spirit of Artemis.
I believe the term is, 'slam-dunk...'
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Today's 5 live @ 01.05. The presenter, discussing the US accident describes it as 'following her previous solo expeditions'

This was a podcast programme, not a 30 second news interview. TCT could have corrected him, could have asked to stop and re record the interview, but no she simply let it run despite all the furore over her claims or otherwise about being solo. Do we need to say anything else?

I found it too boring to listen for the whole podcast but did like her comment @08.56 that following the loss of power in Winslow 'and with power lines looming, I flew it into the ground'. Perhaps the most truthful comment I heard
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