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It doesn't really matter does it because it was "a practice run for MY solo flight across Africa" and there was a PIC.......did I hear that correctly?Another example of the media misquoting her.....no if I heard it correctly she said SOLO a couple of times.
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Tracey was the Execujet second co-pilot on the AN2.
http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/real-economy-report-2013-03-20/rep_id:4433
In the video the AN2 flight was a practice run for her solo flight from Cape to Cambridge
http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/real-economy-report-2013-03-20/rep_id:4433
In the video the AN2 flight was a practice run for her solo flight from Cape to Cambridge
"My Solo Flight Across Africa" how much clearer could it be.
Lies and deception from day one.
edit spelling.
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Great name, 'canopener'!!!!
I wonder what cans could be opened, and why that specific name was selected......?
How intriguing to imagine a can of worms might be opened...
Or even what might happen if the person who probably has the most beans to spill were to open a can of beans?
One person is probably really worried that their time is clearly up, and that a canopener is a dangerous thing to provoke if you happen to be 'that can'.
I wonder what cans could be opened, and why that specific name was selected......?
How intriguing to imagine a can of worms might be opened...
Or even what might happen if the person who probably has the most beans to spill were to open a can of beans?
One person is probably really worried that their time is clearly up, and that a canopener is a dangerous thing to provoke if you happen to be 'that can'.

Seems even our CASA don't know their own definition of solo.
https://www.flightsafetyaustralia.co...-solo-success/
https://www.flightsafetyaustralia.co...-solo-success/

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CASA were perhaps misled by all the press handouts from Boeing?
In this case not much further than Amelia Earhart who had Fred Noonan up front doing the navigation.
A female aviation-adventurer has flown a 1942 biplane from the United Kingdom to Australia to help inspire the next generation of pilots.
Tracey Curtis-Taylor landed her Boeing Stearman, the Spirit of Artemis, in Sydney on Saturday after flying nearly 21,000 kilometres through 23 countries.
Aircraft manufacturer Boeing sponsored the endeavour as part of its centennial celebrations, with the route modelled on Amy Johnson’s 1930 flight from Britain to Australia—lauded as one of the greatest solo flight achievements in history.
https://www.facebook.com/CivilAviati...48773835315643
‘(I’ve) always been inspired by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson,’ said Curtis-Taylor upon landing in Sydney. ‘This expedition from the UK to Australia was the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world, following in their footsteps whilst hoping to inspire the next generation to follow their dreams.’
A Boeing spokesperson said that the flight is ‘a wonderful reminder of how far aviation has advanced and the role women have played since those early days of flight.’
Tracey Curtis-Taylor landed her Boeing Stearman, the Spirit of Artemis, in Sydney on Saturday after flying nearly 21,000 kilometres through 23 countries.
Aircraft manufacturer Boeing sponsored the endeavour as part of its centennial celebrations, with the route modelled on Amy Johnson’s 1930 flight from Britain to Australia—lauded as one of the greatest solo flight achievements in history.
https://www.facebook.com/CivilAviati...48773835315643
‘(I’ve) always been inspired by the achievements of pioneers like Amy Johnson,’ said Curtis-Taylor upon landing in Sydney. ‘This expedition from the UK to Australia was the realisation of a burning desire to fly my beloved Boeing Stearman Spirit of Artemis around the world, following in their footsteps whilst hoping to inspire the next generation to follow their dreams.’
A Boeing spokesperson said that the flight is ‘a wonderful reminder of how far aviation has advanced and the role women have played since those early days of flight.’

Here is the video with that famous slide. There is another slide 42 minutes in that makes reference to "solo"

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In August 2015 when she destroyed the Robinson at Goodwood she had the following hours according the the AAIB.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...6200_12-15.pdf
1,430 hours (of which at least 350 were on type) Last 90 days - 16 hours
Last 28 days - 9 hours
Last 28 days - 9 hours

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Tracey is in the UK newspapers today.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...light-row.html
I am sure this description of the LAA will raise a few hackles at todays Sywell AGM.
The solo claims are once again denied.
It appears the Light Aviation Association is riddled with jealous ageing misogynists.
'Bird in a biplane' blames 'old boy vendetta' for solo flight row after being stripped of an award amid lying claims
I am sure this description of the LAA will raise a few hackles at todays Sywell AGM.
Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club.
Ms Curtis-Taylor admits that in a 'slip of the tongue' during one interview, she inadvertently used the term 'solo' to describe the trip.'I was doing everything to promote the female pioneers who did fly solo, but I never claimed to be doing the same. I was, however, the only pilot. No one flew but me.'’
I've often felt like an outsider because it has been made clear that some resented seeing a woman doing something that they don't do.
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.... and what its wrong with being ex-military, Hon Lt Cdr Curtis-Taylor RNR?
Have a lovely day. I wish I was there but I'm busy flying, over the Omani desert with quite a few current UK military men and women.
Have a lovely day. I wish I was there but I'm busy flying, over the Omani desert with quite a few current UK military men and women.


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"I've often felt like an outsider because it has been made clear that some resented seeing a woman doing something that they don't do."
"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."
Say what you like but she's streets ahead of the LAA and flying community for PR. When she loses the vote these are the only images the public will remember!
"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."
Say what you like but she's streets ahead of the LAA and flying community for PR. When she loses the vote these are the only images the public will remember!

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Ms Curtis-Taylor admits that in a 'slip of the tongue' during one interview, she inadvertently used the term 'solo' to describe the trip.'I was doing everything to promote the female pioneers who did fly solo, but I never claimed to be doing the same. I was, however, the only pilot. No one flew but me.'’
Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club.
And yet Ms Curtis-Taylor is happy to tell everyone in her speeches that she was trained by military pilots !
And yet Ms Curtis-Taylor is happy to tell everyone in her speeches that she was trained by military pilots !


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"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."
That percentage is probably not true. What is true is that Tracey herself is 56 according to Companies House. Only 4 years till she becomes an old girl.
"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."
That percentage is probably not true. What is true is that Tracey herself is 56 according to Companies House. Only 4 years till she becomes an old girl.

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I'm not going to enter the debate about the award, or the motions, but I do think its important that I answer Derek's incorrect facts above.
LAA membership at the September 2016 AGM: 7,643. Membership at 1st September 2018: 7,746.
Average age of member according to our last Member Survey (March 2016), 59.5 years. Previous survey (2011): 58.6 years.
Not a perfect figure I agree, but not the cataclysmic situation suggested.
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I'm not going to enter the debate about the award, or the motions, but I do think its important that I answer Derek's incorrect facts above.
LAA membership at the September 2016 AGM: 7,643. Membership at 1st September 2018: 7,746.
Average age of member according to our last Member Survey (March 2016), 59.5 years. Previous survey (2011): 58.6 years.
Not a perfect figure I agree, but not the cataclysmic situation suggested.
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I don't think that the average tells us enough of the story. She said "80 to 90 per cent" so we could use a good breakdown of ages, and gender.

"I've often felt like an outsider because it has been made clear that some resented seeing a woman doing something that they don't do."
"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."
Say what you like but she's streets ahead of the LAA and flying community for PR. When she loses the vote these are the only images the public will remember!
"Many of the members are ex-military men and about 80 to 90 per cent are over 60. They act like some kind of old boys' club."
Say what you like but she's streets ahead of the LAA and flying community for PR. When she loses the vote these are the only images the public will remember!
"because it has been made clear that some resented"
is of course suitably vague and untestable.
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IIRC, the average age was 59, but that was a year or three ago & it might have applied to another GA subset. Most of us are indeed clocking up the years, but I don't see it as particularly relevant all the while we are encouraging youngsters in whichever ways we do. I don't like the way the LAA is being portrayed as exclusively male, nor do I enjoy T C-T portraying herself so publicly as some sort of a downtrodden, female pilot that by default represents the rest of us. She doesn't and we aren't.
ETA - slow to type that, so other posts got there first with the figures.
ETA - slow to type that, so other posts got there first with the figures.

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