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Old 15th Mar 2016, 22:07
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Good to hear.
I do remember, though, my old man once counselling me with the words...
"Son, do what you like .. 'cept don't frighten the women or the horses."
Mind you, that was back in the days when most people did at least have a bit of a grip on reality.
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Old 15th Mar 2016, 22:24
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Perhaps the CAA should be prosecuted (or somehow publicly reprimanded) for bringing such a ridiculous charge when it was pretty clear the Maule pilot was unlikely to have broken any laws.
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Old 15th Mar 2016, 22:59
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Perhaps good representation...
You might say that, I couldn't possibly comment
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Old 16th Mar 2016, 01:02
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His lawyer was evidently Francis Urquhart.
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Old 16th Mar 2016, 02:04
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God forbid the lentil munchers saw this lot in action. The RAF would have been called out to shoot them down.

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I am absolutely delighted that the CAA lost and doubly so that they had to pay all costs. Perhaps this will encourage them to get on with their proper jobs rather than pursuing what they view as an "easy victory".

The technique of hydro-planing was recommended by the manufacturers of the Maule.
Really? PB84, any comment?

flybymike, you beat me to it! Legalapproach is probably known to his friends as FU.

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Old 16th Mar 2016, 09:08
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You might say that, I couldn't possibly comment
But I could, and I will.

I would like publicly to thank my Counsel whose well-informed and careful cross-questioning of a CAA aerodrome inspector resulted in the trial being stopped after less than two hours of its scheduled three days.
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Old 16th Mar 2016, 09:22
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Result.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 11:05
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I fully expect that this case will result in the CAA having a much better sense of proportion.

I'll repeat this opinion on April 1st.
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Nearly laughed my head off, dear Captain!
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 15:16
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I would like publicly to thank my Counsel whose well-informed and careful cross-questioning of a CAA aerodrome inspector resulted in the trial being stopped after less than two hours of its scheduled three days.
Well done that man, but I suspect that you are now a marked man and they have their beady eye on you. Time to be a good boy for a few years.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 17:55
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Originally Posted by The Ancient Geek
Well done that man, but I suspect that you are now a marked man and they have their beady eye on you. Time to be a good boy for a few years.
I think it may be rather the reverse; the CAA General Counsel has just squandered about £70,000 of aviation consumers' hard-earned cash on three hopeless and improper charges; she will surely be on her best behaviour until she has furnished a report to her Board of Directors.

Incidentally, a recent FOI request revealed that the office of the General Counsel has obtained convictions in barely one in four contested cases since April 2011. More holidaymakers' money down the drain...
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 18:06
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On a more serious note, can we stop calling him a "Maule pilot". I mean, it's fair enough to describe any one of his landings as a "crash", but there's no call to mock his aeroplane...

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Old 17th Mar 2016, 19:12
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It strikes me that a transcript of such a decisive cross-examination could be quite entertaining. Is there one available?
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 01:27
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Well done that man, but I suspect that you are now a marked man and they have their beady eye on you. Time to be a good boy for a few years.

I think it may be rather the reverse;
Mmm... they would never admit it but they don't forget....The Ancient Geek has it!
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 12:04
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Mmm... they would never admit it but they don't forget....The Ancient Geek has it!
I certainly hope that they won't forget - at least not as quickly as the General Counsel seems to have buried her Chief Executive's Red Tape Challenge and GA Policy Framework promises to give GA participants ownership of our personal risks.

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Old 19th Mar 2016, 01:24
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There is, however, an important safety lesson here - people see what they expect to see and miss what is really there. This has led to many accidents, some fatal. Look again and check twice, don't let your brain deceive you.
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As a Yorkshire solicitor has written: "it is very rare for defence costs to be awarded in criminal cases these days, so it says a lot about the merits of the case against you that they were awarded in this instance."

At very least, the CAA General Counsel and her staff will have to be on their best behaviour for six years.
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Old 19th Mar 2016, 12:21
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One can only wonder at the irresponsibility of the onlookers who watched an aeroplane flying away intact from a non event and called 999 to report a crash. It is they who should be prosecuted.
How stupid can the public be?
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Old 19th Mar 2016, 13:30
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A good outcome.

Pilots in charge of their own aeroplanes should be making their own safety decisions and especially when there are no passengers or people underneath, should not be being second guessed in a court of law.

I would be interested, if anybody is in a position to comment, on the legal basis on which the court decision was reached?

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